Hi Garrett, my responses inlined. On 4 July 2014 19:45, Garrett Gottlieb <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Luca, > > I do agree. As a new user scoping out the alternatives (Neo4J, ArangoDB, > or going back to Mongo or Postgres), there are a few barriers IMO: > > - *Documentation* > - It should be *extremely* trivial to set up a basic instance. For > example, what if the last section of the main GitHub page > <https://github.com/orientechnologies/orientdb> contained a "Quick > Start" section that gets one started with and extremely simple database > from scratch... > - wget > > http://www.orientechnologies.com/download/orientdb-community-latest.tar.gz > - unzip ... > - run console.sh... > - CREATE DATABASE remote:localhost/my_db > - CONNECT remote:localhost/my_db root PASS_LOCATED_IN_CONFIG_XML > - CREATE CLASS MyClass > - ... > - This would make it very quick for someone new to get up and > running instantly without doing work, and I know I don't speak for > myself > when I say developers love less input and more output > - You could also just add this to "Easy to install and use" > > We already have a Tutorial, I've linked at the bottom of main GitHub page. > > - Focus more on letting people try it than explaining about it > - Kill "But wasn't OrientDB an ODBMS", "Why yet another NoSQL" > sections > > Done. > > - Add in use cases, which leads me to my next point > > We don't have case studies, > > - *Case Studies* > - I don't even know if there are any, and if there aren't, spend > time working with companies that have built a name in their field (as > big > as you can find) > - Have an "Examples" section with vastly different use cases, > eg. social network, enterprise software, etc. > - Personally, my company is about to announce valley funding and > be a big player in health & fitness, social, mobile, and consumer, > and > after I have it up and running I would gladly give a juicy case > study. The > reason we didn't give one to Parse.com is because I was having > problems scaling with their tech and knew we would be off of it > soon. I'm > also organizing a meetup group in Toronto > <http://www.meetup.com/OrientDB-Toronto/> to raise awareness and > add to the community. If we appear on TechCrunch again > <http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/21/pumpup-exits-beta/> and are > shown to be using OrientDB, that's convincing, especially for SV > startups. > > Potentially we have tons of case studies because the so many and different ways OrientDB can be used, but we've no one. I'd like having some case studies, but users are very lazy even on writing 2 lines of testimonials. > > - Continuously update these as your case studies include larger and > larger brands > - *Help* > - This more of a personal opinion, but I know all of my developer > friends (from University of Waterloo and SV) use StackOverflow, and > seeing only > 241 tagged questions > <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/orient-db?sort=newest> > is generally a red flag. I would recommend switching this group over to > using Stack Overflow as it is already a central Q&A and also markets > technologies; more popular technologies generally have more popular > tags. > > I agree SO is more visible than the Community Group, we'd need to pay attention to SO questions more in the future. > > - *Presence* > - Having a presence in Silicon Valley is generally a good thing. > I'm not sure what the funding situation is for OrientDB, but if you can > raise a round like Neo4J and expand to build an office in the valley, > that > will do wonders for both marketing and finding great talent. > > We recently started fund raising, but we need a strong partners in USA, also because 60% of the users are in USA. > I have high hopes for OrientDB and strongly believe that it has a bright > future ahead. A huge thanks to the team on their hard work so far from the > entire community. We at PumpUp wish you great success! > Thanks Garrett for your precious feedback! Lvc@ > > On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:43:00 AM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: >> >> Luca, hi! >> >> As an illustration of the case: while reading this thread I was sure it >> is current and started just few days ago. >> And then... surprise. >> >> What I think we really need for promotion - is good reason for cites from >> specialists and "big" names as well. And I think that some other >> killer-feature ideas apart just "graphdb" are vital in this situation. >> >> Personally from my side - I like idea of OrientDB very much, you know, >> and you bought us by idea and we are ready to buy product as we even >> considered to use it as foundation of our current project... >> But while we could deal with documentation so far (not as solid, as it >> could be, but it is ok for a while), while we are not interested how much >> money you've gathered from investors (but this might convince others, less >> technical speakers), in my honest opinion - the robustness and stability >> are what OrientDB should be able to sell at first place now. >> That is the feature, which will definitely kill any database product if >> it is not first class property of this product. >> >> Thank you for the great product, indeed and I hope we will have real >> chance to help you make it the best one. >> >> Ata >> >> суббота, 21 июня 2014 г., 19:30:54 UTC+5 пользователь Lvc@ написал: >>> >>> Hi Daniel, >>> What are you referring? >>> >>> Lvc@ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 20 June 2014 15:20, Daniel Cardin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> it would be nice to revisit this topic. 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