At NHK Japan http://www.nhk.or.jp All technical persons are engineers (bachelor degree and above) with certificates CCNA, RHCE etc.. (without unrelated jobs scope and tasks). Theoretically there are no technician (diploma equivalent). So I don't know why OUR government agencies can't do this, still hire diploma/degree person without skill even to do a simple w3c compliant website. Guys, just learn Joomla or Drupal then we don't have to waste our time to discuss these things.
Hasanuddin Abu Bakar ------------------------------- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Haris, >> >> Yup I do know we have to be even handed wen it involves people. >> However, much like we will never pay a single sen to people who gives >> us bad service, it is extremely frustrating to hand over our tax money >> to people who doesn't seem to care about the accountability to the >> rakyat. > > OT, is there a way to use ePerolehan without using windows? > >> >> Eric >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Rilek Eric. I know your frustration. We need to understand they also >> > been >> > overburden with unrelated jobs scope and tasks (In our understanding). >> > To be >> > fair their responsibility much like PTD and their training more towards >> > that. Administration work. >> > Look like a gap need to fill between PTM and PPTM. Need technical only >> > pegawai. >> > Our frustration are known are JPA is doing something about it. I hope >> > they >> > can explain much more detail rather than keep us guessing. >> > In private we also have this same problem. Technical person >> > with experience >> > is doing management work after years of technical work. >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Boh, >> >> >> >> I have never credited the F Grade people with an over abundance of >> >> logic >> >> and knowledge. >> >> >> >> The stats are frighteningly obvious that our tax money has been spent >> >> paying the salaries of incompetent baboons! Either they just go with >> >> the >> >> point and click approach ala Microsoft Sharepoint/Frontpage or they >> >> just >> >> splurge the people's money. Yes, I am being insulting because I am a >> >> citizen >> >> and a tax payer! >> >> >> >> Eric >> > >> > -- >> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> > >> > Facebook Fan page >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected] >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en > > > -- > Regards, > > Umarzuki Mochlis > http://debmal.my > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.

