well, revolutions can be bloodless, but the outcomes vary!
one solution is to provide positions for all those unemployed IT Grads.... BUT will that solve the problem? There is a reason they are unemployed... (and MSC companies are hiring Indian,... programmers), and most are MS trained anyway, ...;-( On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> At NHK Japan http://www.nhk.or.jp >> All technical persons are engineers (bachelor degree and above) with >> certificates CCNA, RHCE etc.. (without unrelated jobs scope and >> tasks). Theoretically there are no technician (diploma equivalent). >> So I don't know why OUR government agencies can't do this, still hire >> diploma/degree person without skill even to do a simple w3c compliant >> website. Guys, just learn Joomla or Drupal then we don't have to waste >> our time to discuss these things. >> > > that is going to be a revolution if that happening here in Malaysia. In a > revolution, there were massacres involved. > >> >> >> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar >> ------------------------------- >> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut >> >> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org >> >> PGP Public Key >> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Haris, >> >> >> >> Yup I do know we have to be even handed wen it involves people. >> >> However, much like we will never pay a single sen to people who gives >> >> us bad service, it is extremely frustrating to hand over our tax money >> >> to people who doesn't seem to care about the accountability to the >> >> rakyat. >> > >> > OT, is there a way to use ePerolehan without using windows? >> > >> >> >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Rilek Eric. I know your frustration. We need to understand they also >> >> > been >> >> > overburden with unrelated jobs scope and tasks (In our >> >> > understanding). >> >> > To be >> >> > fair their responsibility much like PTD and their training more >> >> > towards >> >> > that. Administration work. >> >> > Look like a gap need to fill between PTM and PPTM. Need technical >> >> > only >> >> > pegawai. >> >> > Our frustration are known are JPA is doing something about it. I >> >> > hope >> >> > they >> >> > can explain much more detail rather than keep us guessing. >> >> > In private we also have this same problem. Technical person >> >> > with experience >> >> > is doing management work after years of technical work. >> >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Boh, >> >> >> >> >> >> I have never credited the F Grade people with an over abundance of >> >> >> logic >> >> >> and knowledge. >> >> >> >> >> >> The stats are frighteningly obvious that our tax money has been >> >> >> spent >> >> >> paying the salaries of incompetent baboons! Either they just go with >> >> >> the >> >> >> point and click approach ala Microsoft Sharepoint/Frontpage or they >> >> >> just >> >> >> splurge the people's money. Yes, I am being insulting because I am a >> >> >> citizen >> >> >> and a tax payer! >> >> >> >> >> >> Eric >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> > >> >> > Facebook Fan page >> >> > >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> > >> >> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > >> >> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected] >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Umarzuki Mochlis >> > http://debmal.my >> > >> > -- >> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> > >> > Facebook Fan page >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected] >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Umarzuki Mochlis > http://debmal.my > > -- > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ > > Facebook Fan page > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 > > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -- #------- regds, Boh Heong, Yap -- Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. 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