On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar <[email protected]>wrote:

> At NHK Japan http://www.nhk.or.jp
> All technical persons are engineers (bachelor degree and above) with
> certificates CCNA, RHCE etc.. (without unrelated jobs scope and
> tasks). Theoretically there are no technician (diploma equivalent).
> So I don't know why OUR government agencies can't do this, still hire
> diploma/degree person without skill even to do a simple w3c compliant
> website. Guys, just learn Joomla or Drupal then we don't have to waste
> our time to discuss  these things.
>
>
that is going to be a revolution if that happening here in Malaysia. In a
revolution, there were massacres involved.


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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Haris,
> >>
> >> Yup I do know we have to be even handed wen it involves people.
> >> However, much like we will never pay a single sen to people who gives
> >> us bad service, it is extremely frustrating to hand over our tax money
> >> to people who doesn't seem to care about the accountability to the
> >> rakyat.
> >
> > OT, is there a way to use ePerolehan without using windows?
> >
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Rilek Eric. I know your frustration. We need to understand they also
> >> > been
> >> > overburden with unrelated jobs scope and tasks (In our understanding).
> >> > To be
> >> > fair their responsibility much like PTD  and their training more
> towards
> >> > that. Administration work.
> >> > Look like a gap need to fill between PTM and PPTM. Need technical only
> >> > pegawai.
> >> > Our frustration are known are JPA is doing something about it. I  hope
> >> > they
> >> > can explain much more detail rather than keep us guessing.
> >> > In private we also have this same problem. Technical person
> >> > with experience
> >> > is doing management work after years of technical work.
> >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Eric Yeoh <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Boh,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have never credited the F Grade people with an over abundance of
> >> >> logic
> >> >> and knowledge.
> >> >>
> >> >> The stats are frighteningly obvious that our tax money has been spent
> >> >> paying the salaries of incompetent baboons! Either they just go with
> >> >> the
> >> >> point and click approach ala Microsoft Sharepoint/Frontpage or they
> >> >> just
> >> >> splurge the people's money. Yes, I am being insulting because I am a
> >> >> citizen
> >> >> and a tax payer!
> >> >>
> >> >> Eric
> >> >
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