Hi,
On 9/5/06, João Saleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should give the next step, and start thinking on the creation > of another web-site (introductory, for newbies) and keeping (or > improving) the current wiki. Or improving the current wiki. > > For that, i think we should discuss on the ML the structure of that > site, and how to implement it. > [1- Discuss the structure] > > This is not usual, and maybe it's not the best solution, but i think it > would be funny if the front-end was Flash - we are osflash, aren't we? > :P The sections (tutorials, case studies, etc) would be served as RSS, > and the front-end just had to consume this and show it on screen. So we > could use existing tools for the server side, and we would only have to > implement the interface. And share the "web-site" code as an example of > an osflash project :P. Well, it's open to discussion! I think this is not a good example of how osflash tools should be used. For one, RSS would not allow editing of existing content. We should stick to the wiki to display/structure pages instead of reinventing the wheel. Besides, users (i dislike using the term "newbies", some of them may just have come from a different background) might want to add tips or a problem they encountered, etc. Instead of that swf, a more realistic app (pizza, anyone?) should be used. It should show how osflash can make RIA development faster using osflash tools, but __not__ use every single osflash tool in existence for this app; or else it would be just another "golden hammer" case study. > [2- Discuss the technologies] > > The design should be something simple, but appealing. > [3- Propose some layouts] > > The most important thing is the content (general info, the tutorials, > etc), so we should start creating quality content. And also, keep it > simple to add more content. > [4- Create content, like tutorials, and more things to be decided with > the structure) > > After closing the discussion on this subjects, we should stop talking > and start working. Everyone who is available to work on this should > apply for a work-force (is this the word? Argh, my english...). I think > that within one/two weeks - or less -, if we are organized, it will be > finished. It is important to prioritise. I feel design and the facade should be at the bottom at the list. If you stick to the wiki you wouldn't even need to bother about creating a totally new design or layout. > [5- Create a work-force] > > I am willing to help on this, despite having a tight deadline for the > current project (is there any osflasher available to work in Webfuel? :P). This reminds me of the thread on ASDT. I mean, there are so many osflashers out there, I'm sure they would have accessed the wiki at least once...so if there hasn't been any new content, what makes you so sure a new workforce can create *and* sustain the creation of new content? It would be naive to think that it will be a once-off thing. I'm not out to criticize you, it's a really good idea, but keep in mind that over enthusiasm may lead to extraneous and redundant work. > Waiting for your reactions.... > > João Saleiro > > > Aral Balkan wrote: > > Hi João, > > > > Thanks for the great feedback. You're spot on: In addition to the > > tools we need to have the information to make the tools accessible to > > developers. I have been trying to do this in the various talks I give > > but I too notice the lack of introductory material on the site. This > > is definitely something we need to address. > > > > Aral > > > > > >> If we want to attract more people, we need to put ourselfs on their > >> place and understand what they feel about osflash at the beginning. > >> But > >> this is just my opinion, of course.... :) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> João Saleiro > >> <snip> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > osflash mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > osflash mailing list > [email protected] > http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org > -- Cheers, Ray Chuan _______________________________________________ osflash mailing list [email protected] http://osflash.org/mailman/listinfo/osflash_osflash.org
