I would say they do use it, or it doesn't run the same. It isn't at all
trivial to write a player without a spec -- without a spec or benchmark it
is impossible. For example, how would you make morph tween behave the same
(maybe you wouldn't want to, but that is an example of something you need to
use the flash player for).

Maybe what the world needs is a new *open* vector graphics spec, that isn't
xml and bloated like svg, isn't proprietary and bloated and tied to
something like xaml. Like a simplified swf player, fast and lean like that,
but just vector, bitmap and code - no cruft. The code could be Java instead
of js based to allow scaling. With a solid language the cruft could come as
libraries instead of embedded in the player.

Ok maybe I'm dreaming, but if not, count me in : ).

Cheers,
robin

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zárate
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:03 AM
To: Open Source Flash Mailing List
Subject: Re: [osflash] SWF9 and FLV File Format Spec released

I don't really know, but I'd say GNash team does NOT need to use Adobe's
Flash player for their work. They just need swfs (that you can produce with
MTASC), decompile them and make them work via trial and error.

They do NOT need to accept any license or EULA.

On 8/8/07, Robin Debreuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Is the current license preventing another players (like GNash)?
> >> Answer: No...
>
> I wouldn't be so sure... If you look at the flash player licence, it 
> says you can't reverse engineer it, create derivitive works based on it
etc etc.
> So really you will break the licence one way or another.
>
> (btw, it says it is the flash license from the link and title, but it 
> seems to be for pdf. Hey, maybe that means there is no player licence ; ).
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/players/flash/
>
> "2.5.1  You may not modify, adapt, translate or create derivative 
> works based upon the Software. You may not reverse engineer, 
> decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to discover the source 
> code of the Software except to the extent you may be expressly 
> permitted to decompile under applicable law, it is essential to do so 
> in order to achieve operability of the Software with another software 
> program, and you have first requested Adobe to provide the information 
> necessary to achieve such operability and Adobe has not made such 
> information available. Adobe has the right to impose reasonable 
> conditions and to request a reasonable fee before providing such 
> information. Any such information supplied by Adobe and any 
> information obtained by you by such permitted decompilation may only 
> be used by you for the purpose described herein and may not be 
> disclosed to any third party or used to create any software which is 
> substantially similar to the expression of the Software. Requests for 
> information should be directed to the Adobe Customer Support 
> Department."`
>
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