Wow, pretty comprehensive stuff.  I'll get back after running some tests. 
Thanks  PW

On Saturday, June 5, 2021 at 5:54:45 AM UTC+1 Xavier wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:27:38PM -0700, 'P Wat' via OsmAnd wrote:
> >
> >On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 6:19:44 PM UTC+1 Xavier wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:07:20AM -0700, 'P Wat' via OsmAnd wrote:
> >> >[image: OsmAndPowerDrainScreenshot_20210530-184241.png]Has OsmAnd power
> >> >consumption been creeping up?
> >> >I first noticed the problem several months ago, but have only recently 
> had
> >> >the opportunity to analyse it.
> >> >Just normal daily use receiving mail, texts, making the odd phone call,
> >> >running Osmand as a map, the consumption is OK. Battery lasts all day, 
> and
> >> >more.
> >> >Running OsmAnd for navigation (route instructions, etc) it eats my 
> battery
> >> >in an unacceptable time, eg 45 minutes.
> >>
> >> First question: Is the phone today the same phone from "a couple of
> >> years ago"?
> >>
> >> Second question: If it is the same phone, is it *also* the same battery
> >> from "a couple of years ago"?
> >>
> >> Also, if it is the same battery (which would also mean same phone) then
> >> the batterie's capacity will have dropped in the interveaning years, so
> >> the battery will be less able to stand up to heavy current usage now as
> >> compared to a couple years ago.
> >>
> >Hi Xavier.
> >Thanks for your lucid response. Questions understood, and the reason for
> >them.
> >1) Phone - IS the same as a couple of years ago.
>
> A reasonable comparison then.
>
> >2) Battery - IS the same as a couple of years ago.
> >"Aha! There's the problem"; I hear you cry. And I understand your logic,
> >(where you're coming from). I am an engineer and am cognisant of the
> >problems of aging batteries, diminished capacity, reduced current 
> delivery,
> >and such. However, in defence of the battery in this instance, I am
> >reasonably confident that it is still giving respectable delivery. Daily
> >drain under normal circumstances is so far not unduly reduced since new.
>
> Yes, but, daily drain without the GPS receiver running will be lower 
> than daily drain plus the current pulled by the GPS receiver. One 
> possibility is that the additional current draw trips your battery over 
> a knee where it can't handle the load.
>
> >Clearly you are technically aware so I'll refer back to parts of my
> >original post:-
> >a) "Just normal daily use receiving mail, texts, making the odd phone 
> call, *running
> >Osmand as a map*, the consumption is OK". To which I could add listening
> >to radio for several hours per evening, and other usage.
>
> Yes, that does imply a reasonable capacity does remain. Although using 
> Osmand as just a map, without navigation also running, will likely not 
> toggle on the GPS chipset as much, so the current drain will naturally 
> be lower.
>
> >b) " Battery lasts all day, and more." This phone model does have an
> >unusually high capacity battery. It can still easily do 24 hrs between
> >charges, but is generally charged overnight.
>
> Also implies a reasonable capacity does remain. Does not rule out a 
> critical current draw level above which the battery is unable to cope.
>
> One possible test to determine if the drain is caused by the GPS 
> chipset, or by Osmand, might be to install this app briefly:
>
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.android.gpstest.osmdroid/
>
> And run it (with Osmand off, to remove Osmand usage from the picture) 
> under a similar senario and time as the navigation where you saw the 
> drastic drop in your posted screen shot.
>
> If you get a similar drastic drop in the capacity curve, then that 
> points to the battery possibly having a critical current level above 
> which it cannot cope.
>
> If you don't get a drastic drop with the alternate app, then that would 
> implicate Osmand as a potential cause.
>
>

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