Peter, Thank you for the detailed explanation and for correcting me.
I plan to investigation if there are any options I can set in BaseCamp when I export to a GPX file. I am still learning BaseCamp and I am not sure if this is the best tool for me to use when creating an on road motorcycle tour route GPX file to export and then import into OsmAnd. And I hope and pray you have a great day! John At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or further from God. On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:29 AM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> wrote: > gpx is format spec, a subset of xml. A gpx file may contain tracks (lists > of geolocations known as track-points) and route points, also known as > waypoints. Waypoints usually have additional information fields, > trackpoints usually don't have additional fields. > It is very unusual for gpx-files to contain street names. Typically street > names are added at routing/navigating time by navigating apps. > Waypoints also usually do not contain street names. They usuallyhave POI > names/refs. > > Routes created by map applications usually allow you to create a route or > track, and waypoints for POIs. The waypoints are the icons you place on the > map. > > Export as gpx-file usually puts one track (list of trackpoints) and the > waypoints (separate route points) in the export file. The application may > offer a choice to export the waypoints. > (Some applications may offer the option to export more than one track to a > single gpx-file.) > > Applications importing the gpx-file should handle > 1. the track => display as a line > 2. the route points (waypoints) => display as separate points (icons, > markers) > (3. multiple tracks => display as separate lines) > > Routing/navigating applications can all handle 1. (track) > Routing/navigating applications seldom handle 3 (multiple tracks), because > they route/navigate one track at a time > > Routing/navigating applications differ in how they handle 2. (waypoints) > E.g. afstandmeten.nl treats waypoints as trackpoints and connects all > points with a line, resulting in a map showing one normal curves/meandering > route plus a chaotic mess of straight lines forming sharp points. > Luckily the waymark "route" is a separate route and I can delete it from > the screen, leaving only the track. > E.g.in OsmAnd, you can choose to import waypoints (it ignores the track) > or to import a track (I think it reads the waypoints as well, I have to > check). > I don't know how Garmin and Bascamp handle imported gpx files with > waypoints and/or multiple tracks. > > That is why, when something unexpected happens, you need to look at the > gpx to check if it has multiple tracks, and separate routepoints. > Then import and check if all the elements in the gpx are handled > correctly. > You could also look at the details, especially for the wayponts, to see if > e.g. the name or type is shown on the screen after import. > > Peter Elderson > > > Op za 5 aug 2023 om 09:26 schreef SonWon <[email protected]>: > >> >> Hi Angelo, >> >> I am still learning too. This website may help. >> https://gpxadventures.com/tutorials/electronic-devices/what-is-a-gpx-file/ >> >> I am using Garmin BaseCamp to create GPX files since I have a Garmin >> device. BaseCamp gives me the option to create routes or waypoints. I think >> routes contain street names and turns however I have better results >> importing waypoints into OsmAnd. I think waypoints are just GPS points on >> the map strung together to create a route. At least that is how I am >> visualizing it. I think a route is a single waypoint at each turn which >> does not appear to work well with OsmAnd. >> >> When you use Attach to The Roads it binds all of the waypoints into the >> nearest road. So in place of following waypoint to waypoint you are >> following the road. I noticed the algorithm that makes this possible is not >> perfect. For example a turn on a road will sometimes just pretend you are >> not turning however the map is clear. I am use to navigating without voice >> instructions because of a Bluetooth limitation with the headset, phone and >> Garmin all linked at the same time. Bluetooth does not play well with more >> than two audio channels is what I have learned. >> >> I would not take what I wrote as completely correct until someone more >> knowledgeable comes by to correct or confirm what I wrote. >> >> I think that sums up all that I think I know. >> >> John >> >> >> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or further >> from God. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:13 AM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>> I'm not an expert in GPX creation. >>> Can you better explain difference between waypoints and route gpx? >>> >>> I have noticed that some of imported GPX are working other no, most >>> probably you are right. >>> >>> A further question is related to Attach to the Road >>> Can be set for default or shall be set on every time? >>> I tried but I cannot confirm last request from navigation page >>> >>> Sorry to abuse of your help. >>> Thanks in advance >>> Angelo >>> >>> >>> Il ven 4 ago 2023, 21:31 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Angelo, >>>> >>>> I did some testing tonight. There are two types of GPX files, one is a >>>> route and the other is waypoints. This is defined when you create the GPX >>>> file. For a waypoint file you will get micro instructions which are >>>> annoying when on road. An imported route file also has micro instructions. >>>> However if you select Attach to The Roads then OsmAnd will provide better >>>> instructions. >>>> >>>> Give it a try by creating a short route and use the Simulate Navigation >>>> feature to see how OsmAnd will route as you try different combinations. >>>> >>>> In summary, using the Attach to The Roads will clean up the micro >>>> instructions. It isn't perfect though. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>> further from God. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:29 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John, >>>>> Following pad is ok. >>>>> Problem if you navigate an imported gpx with turn by turn announcement >>>>> . >>>>> Osmand is giving "describing" you the road and announce any simple >>>>> bend on a strait road . >>>>> Driving crazy and make hard to understand when you really have to turn. >>>>> Roundabout: it say slightly turn right and then turn left . No graphic >>>>> indication on screen. >>>>> >>>>> When I start navigation I choose "follow truck" >>>>> May be this is wrong. >>>>> >>>>> Ciao >>>>> Angelo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Il gio 3 ago 2023, 17:59 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll be testing this on the road once the weather clears. I didn't >>>>>> see this problem with a test import so it could be the import file is the >>>>>> problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>>>> further from God. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Everybody, >>>>>>> I have seen this topic has been discussed in the past, but I'm >>>>>>> wondering if there is any improvement/ good news about >>>>>>> I love the app, but I use a lot of prearranged gpx and follow them >>>>>>> only looking the map on screen isn't the best solution. >>>>>>> Turn by turn navigation doesn't work and Osmand is " describing" the >>>>>>> road versus give real indication >>>>>>> I hope there is a solution to this problem. >>>>>>> I know it's related to Openmaps , but it seems to me that such a >>>>>>> nice program cannot handle turn by turn navigation for imported gpx >>>>>>> There are other off line 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