AFAIK Basecamp is not a router, which would make it not the best app for creating a route for a specific type of vehicle.
Peter Elderson Op za 5 aug 2023 om 10:37 schreef SonWon <[email protected]>: > > Peter, > > Thank you for the detailed explanation and for correcting me. > > I plan to investigation if there are any options I can set in BaseCamp > when I export to a GPX file. I am still learning BaseCamp and I am not sure > if this is the best tool for me to use when creating an on road motorcycle > tour route GPX file to export and then import into OsmAnd. > > And I hope and pray you have a great day! > > John > > > At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or further > from God. > > > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:29 AM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> gpx is format spec, a subset of xml. A gpx file may contain tracks (lists >> of geolocations known as track-points) and route points, also known as >> waypoints. Waypoints usually have additional information fields, >> trackpoints usually don't have additional fields. >> It is very unusual for gpx-files to contain street names. Typically >> street names are added at routing/navigating time by navigating apps. >> Waypoints also usually do not contain street names. They usuallyhave POI >> names/refs. >> >> Routes created by map applications usually allow you to create a route or >> track, and waypoints for POIs. The waypoints are the icons you place on the >> map. >> >> Export as gpx-file usually puts one track (list of trackpoints) and the >> waypoints (separate route points) in the export file. The application may >> offer a choice to export the waypoints. >> (Some applications may offer the option to export more than one track to >> a single gpx-file.) >> >> Applications importing the gpx-file should handle >> 1. the track => display as a line >> 2. the route points (waypoints) => display as separate points (icons, >> markers) >> (3. multiple tracks => display as separate lines) >> >> Routing/navigating applications can all handle 1. (track) >> Routing/navigating applications seldom handle 3 (multiple tracks), >> because they route/navigate one track at a time >> >> Routing/navigating applications differ in how they handle 2. (waypoints) >> E.g. afstandmeten.nl treats waypoints as trackpoints and connects all >> points with a line, resulting in a map showing one normal curves/meandering >> route plus a chaotic mess of straight lines forming sharp points. >> Luckily the waymark "route" is a separate route and I can delete it from >> the screen, leaving only the track. >> E.g.in OsmAnd, you can choose to import waypoints (it ignores the track) >> or to import a track (I think it reads the waypoints as well, I have to >> check). >> I don't know how Garmin and Bascamp handle imported gpx files with >> waypoints and/or multiple tracks. >> >> That is why, when something unexpected happens, you need to look at the >> gpx to check if it has multiple tracks, and separate routepoints. >> Then import and check if all the elements in the gpx are handled >> correctly. >> You could also look at the details, especially for the wayponts, to see >> if e.g. the name or type is shown on the screen after import. >> >> Peter Elderson >> >> >> Op za 5 aug 2023 om 09:26 schreef SonWon <[email protected]>: >> >>> >>> Hi Angelo, >>> >>> I am still learning too. This website may help. >>> https://gpxadventures.com/tutorials/electronic-devices/what-is-a-gpx-file/ >>> >>> I am using Garmin BaseCamp to create GPX files since I have a Garmin >>> device. BaseCamp gives me the option to create routes or waypoints. I think >>> routes contain street names and turns however I have better results >>> importing waypoints into OsmAnd. I think waypoints are just GPS points on >>> the map strung together to create a route. At least that is how I am >>> visualizing it. I think a route is a single waypoint at each turn which >>> does not appear to work well with OsmAnd. >>> >>> When you use Attach to The Roads it binds all of the waypoints into the >>> nearest road. So in place of following waypoint to waypoint you are >>> following the road. I noticed the algorithm that makes this possible is not >>> perfect. For example a turn on a road will sometimes just pretend you are >>> not turning however the map is clear. I am use to navigating without voice >>> instructions because of a Bluetooth limitation with the headset, phone and >>> Garmin all linked at the same time. Bluetooth does not play well with more >>> than two audio channels is what I have learned. >>> >>> I would not take what I wrote as completely correct until someone more >>> knowledgeable comes by to correct or confirm what I wrote. >>> >>> I think that sums up all that I think I know. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>> further from God. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:13 AM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>>> I'm not an expert in GPX creation. >>>> Can you better explain difference between waypoints and route gpx? >>>> >>>> I have noticed that some of imported GPX are working other no, most >>>> probably you are right. >>>> >>>> A further question is related to Attach to the Road >>>> Can be set for default or shall be set on every time? >>>> I tried but I cannot confirm last request from navigation page >>>> >>>> Sorry to abuse of your help. >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> Angelo >>>> >>>> >>>> Il ven 4 ago 2023, 21:31 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Angelo, >>>>> >>>>> I did some testing tonight. There are two types of GPX files, one is a >>>>> route and the other is waypoints. This is defined when you create the GPX >>>>> file. For a waypoint file you will get micro instructions which are >>>>> annoying when on road. An imported route file also has micro instructions. >>>>> However if you select Attach to The Roads then OsmAnd will provide better >>>>> instructions. >>>>> >>>>> Give it a try by creating a short route and use the Simulate >>>>> Navigation feature to see how OsmAnd will route as you try different >>>>> combinations. >>>>> >>>>> In summary, using the Attach to The Roads will clean up the micro >>>>> instructions. It isn't perfect though. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>>> further from God. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:29 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John, >>>>>> Following pad is ok. >>>>>> Problem if you navigate an imported gpx with turn by turn >>>>>> announcement . >>>>>> Osmand is giving "describing" you the road and announce any simple >>>>>> bend on a strait road . >>>>>> Driving crazy and make hard to understand when you really have to >>>>>> turn. >>>>>> Roundabout: it say slightly turn right and then turn left . No >>>>>> graphic indication on screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I start navigation I choose "follow truck" >>>>>> May be this is wrong. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ciao >>>>>> Angelo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Il gio 3 ago 2023, 17:59 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll be testing this on the road once the weather clears. I didn't >>>>>>> see this problem with a test import so it could be the import file is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>>>>> further from God. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Everybody, >>>>>>>> I have seen this topic has been discussed in the past, but I'm >>>>>>>> wondering if there is any improvement/ good news about >>>>>>>> I love the app, but I use a lot of prearranged gpx and follow them >>>>>>>> only looking the map on screen isn't the best solution. >>>>>>>> Turn by turn navigation doesn't work and Osmand is " describing" >>>>>>>> the road versus give real indication >>>>>>>> I hope there is a solution to this problem. >>>>>>>> I know it's related to Openmaps , but it seems to me that such a >>>>>>>> nice program cannot handle turn by turn navigation for imported gpx 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