Hi Peter, Not sure I understand you completely. It does make routes that can be exported to a GPX file. Is there a better tool for the PC that I should consider using?
John At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or further from God. On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 11:02 AM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> wrote: > AFAIK Basecamp is not a router, which would make it not the best app for > creating a route for a specific type of vehicle. > > Peter Elderson > > > Op za 5 aug 2023 om 10:37 schreef SonWon <[email protected]>: > >> >> Peter, >> >> Thank you for the detailed explanation and for correcting me. >> >> I plan to investigation if there are any options I can set in BaseCamp >> when I export to a GPX file. I am still learning BaseCamp and I am not sure >> if this is the best tool for me to use when creating an on road motorcycle >> tour route GPX file to export and then import into OsmAnd. >> >> And I hope and pray you have a great day! >> >> John >> >> >> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or further >> from God. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:29 AM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> gpx is format spec, a subset of xml. A gpx file may contain tracks >>> (lists of geolocations known as track-points) and route points, also known >>> as waypoints. Waypoints usually have additional information fields, >>> trackpoints usually don't have additional fields. >>> It is very unusual for gpx-files to contain street names. Typically >>> street names are added at routing/navigating time by navigating apps. >>> Waypoints also usually do not contain street names. They usuallyhave POI >>> names/refs. >>> >>> Routes created by map applications usually allow you to create a route >>> or track, and waypoints for POIs. The waypoints are the icons you place on >>> the map. >>> >>> Export as gpx-file usually puts one track (list of trackpoints) and the >>> waypoints (separate route points) in the export file. The application may >>> offer a choice to export the waypoints. >>> (Some applications may offer the option to export more than one track to >>> a single gpx-file.) >>> >>> Applications importing the gpx-file should handle >>> 1. the track => display as a line >>> 2. the route points (waypoints) => display as separate points (icons, >>> markers) >>> (3. multiple tracks => display as separate lines) >>> >>> Routing/navigating applications can all handle 1. (track) >>> Routing/navigating applications seldom handle 3 (multiple tracks), >>> because they route/navigate one track at a time >>> >>> Routing/navigating applications differ in how they handle 2. (waypoints) >>> E.g. afstandmeten.nl treats waypoints as trackpoints and connects all >>> points with a line, resulting in a map showing one normal curves/meandering >>> route plus a chaotic mess of straight lines forming sharp points. >>> Luckily the waymark "route" is a separate route and I can delete it from >>> the screen, leaving only the track. >>> E.g.in OsmAnd, you can choose to import waypoints (it ignores the >>> track) or to import a track (I think it reads the waypoints as well, I have >>> to check). >>> I don't know how Garmin and Bascamp handle imported gpx files with >>> waypoints and/or multiple tracks. >>> >>> That is why, when something unexpected happens, you need to look at the >>> gpx to check if it has multiple tracks, and separate routepoints. >>> Then import and check if all the elements in the gpx are handled >>> correctly. >>> You could also look at the details, especially for the wayponts, to see >>> if e.g. the name or type is shown on the screen after import. >>> >>> Peter Elderson >>> >>> >>> Op za 5 aug 2023 om 09:26 schreef SonWon <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Angelo, >>>> >>>> I am still learning too. This website may help. >>>> https://gpxadventures.com/tutorials/electronic-devices/what-is-a-gpx-file/ >>>> >>>> I am using Garmin BaseCamp to create GPX files since I have a Garmin >>>> device. BaseCamp gives me the option to create routes or waypoints. I think >>>> routes contain street names and turns however I have better results >>>> importing waypoints into OsmAnd. I think waypoints are just GPS points on >>>> the map strung together to create a route. At least that is how I am >>>> visualizing it. I think a route is a single waypoint at each turn which >>>> does not appear to work well with OsmAnd. >>>> >>>> When you use Attach to The Roads it binds all of the waypoints into the >>>> nearest road. So in place of following waypoint to waypoint you are >>>> following the road. I noticed the algorithm that makes this possible is not >>>> perfect. For example a turn on a road will sometimes just pretend you are >>>> not turning however the map is clear. I am use to navigating without voice >>>> instructions because of a Bluetooth limitation with the headset, phone and >>>> Garmin all linked at the same time. Bluetooth does not play well with more >>>> than two audio channels is what I have learned. >>>> >>>> I would not take what I wrote as completely correct until someone more >>>> knowledgeable comes by to correct or confirm what I wrote. >>>> >>>> I think that sums up all that I think I know. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>> further from God. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:13 AM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> Thanks a lot for your help. >>>>> I'm not an expert in GPX creation. >>>>> Can you better explain difference between waypoints and route gpx? >>>>> >>>>> I have noticed that some of imported GPX are working other no, most >>>>> probably you are right. >>>>> >>>>> A further question is related to Attach to the Road >>>>> Can be set for default or shall be set on every time? >>>>> I tried but I cannot confirm last request from navigation page >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to abuse of your help. >>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>> Angelo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Il ven 4 ago 2023, 21:31 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Angelo, >>>>>> >>>>>> I did some testing tonight. There are two types of GPX files, one is >>>>>> a route and the other is waypoints. This is defined when you create the >>>>>> GPX >>>>>> file. For a waypoint file you will get micro instructions which are >>>>>> annoying when on road. An imported route file also has micro >>>>>> instructions. >>>>>> However if you select Attach to The Roads then OsmAnd will provide better >>>>>> instructions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Give it a try by creating a short route and use the Simulate >>>>>> Navigation feature to see how OsmAnd will route as you try different >>>>>> combinations. >>>>>> >>>>>> In summary, using the Attach to The Roads will clean up the micro >>>>>> instructions. It isn't perfect though. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>>>> further from God. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:29 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> John, >>>>>>> Following pad is ok. >>>>>>> Problem if you navigate an imported gpx with turn by turn >>>>>>> announcement . >>>>>>> Osmand is giving "describing" you the road and announce any simple >>>>>>> bend on a strait road . >>>>>>> Driving crazy and make hard to understand when you really have to >>>>>>> turn. >>>>>>> Roundabout: it say slightly turn right and then turn left . No >>>>>>> graphic indication on screen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I start navigation I choose "follow truck" >>>>>>> May be this is wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>> Angelo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Il gio 3 ago 2023, 17:59 SonWon <[email protected]> ha scritto: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll be testing this on the road once the weather clears. I didn't >>>>>>>> see this problem with a test import so it could be the import file is >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At any moment, you have a choice, that leads you closer to God or >>>>>>>> further from God. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 2:38 PM Angelo Serio <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Everybody, >>>>>>>>> I have seen this topic has been discussed in the past, but I'm >>>>>>>>> wondering if there is any improvement/ good news about >>>>>>>>> I love the app, but I use a lot of prearranged gpx and follow them >>>>>>>>> only looking the map on screen isn't the best solution. >>>>>>>>> Turn by turn navigation doesn't work and Osmand is " describing" >>>>>>>>> the road versus give real indication >>>>>>>>> I hope there is a solution to this problem. >>>>>>>>> I know it's related to Openmaps , but it seems to me that such a >>>>>>>>> nice program cannot handle turn by turn 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