On Nov 14, 2008, at 1:49 AM, David Cake wrote: > At 8:40 PM -0500 13/11/08, Charles Bennett wrote: >> In any case, as soon as the Police, FBI, BATF, and the secret service >> give theirs up I'll think about it. > > You see, not being part of the American gun culture, when you > say "I don't want to use guns to commit crimes, I only want them in > case I need to shoot a federal official", I find that both > a) inherently contradictory.
You missed the point. If, as is the stated reason, the idea is that AW *ONLY* belong on the battle field then the "inherently contradictory" part is that my own government thinks it's OK if they have them but 'not on a battle field'. The IRS spent 1.5 million dollars last year upgrading their weapons. For what? "Better customer service"? My. "Ok, but them first", just points out that contradiction. Something like 170 MILLION people died in the 20th century at the hands of their own governments. If you want to disarm something, start there and make a real difference in the world. I suggest Somalia as a good kick off point. Disarm the warlords and you will save thousands of lives per year. > > and > b) relatively convincing evidence that a ban is a probably good idea. > If your primary reason for wanting one s really that you may need to > engage in armed rebellion, I find that convincing evidence that the > rest of us would be better off if you didn't have one. I have no plans for rebellion. Armed or otherwise. (Obviously, armed would be the choice though. Ask the Jews how unarmed worked out for them..) Rifles are like this. "Lady to Texas Ranger: "Officer I see you are carrying a pistol. Are you expecting trouble?" Ranger: "No Mamm. If I was, I'd have brought a rifle." Odds are that my various rifles will continue to represent what they always have. An exercise in mental discipline (sort of Golf that goes BANG!) where I try to poke a hole in a piece of paper, 300 meters away, in exactly the same spot each time. > > > I'm not saying that my opinions about guns are any more > objective This is nutters. Your opinions don't have to be objective. Hell, they don't even have to make sense, they just need to be argumentative or amusing.. > -- just pointing out that if you aren't brought up with US > gun culture, emotive arguments based on it tend to have exactly the > opposite effect. I do understand and it may very well work for you. (actually, I truly hope it does as I wish everyone to be safe.) As long as you live in a benign area of the world, in a safe neighborhood where the police are seconds away, the odds are pretty good that you will never even wish things were otherwise. OTOH, if it does go pear shaped above a certain point, your options are limited to depending on someone else to save you. That's the same for me too, just at a different point (I hope) =c= _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
