Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac

[Veronica Herbert]

Dear all,   Once again I had to "explain" and defend the use of the word VBAC.  The response I got today was "Well I'm not going to change what I say!" When I said the term had been around since the late 70's (somebody said that on here so I hope it's right lol) they said they had never heard of it. Well they have now!!! I went home on my tea break and printed off copies of the paper that Carolyn (hope you don't mind Carolyn) wrote and I placed a copy in the postnatal ward, labour ward, special care nursery, and the tea room. Another thing, we had a woman who was trying to have a VBAC today and the Registrar that was on said she was only allowed to push for 20 minutes and then she was to have a vaccuum extraction, if she hadn't pushed it out.  Now I'm no expert on VBAC's but I thought that that was a little unfair, since in her last labour she had only got to 4cm dilated, and she had never been through second stage. Any thoughts?/? By the way, she got to about 5cms and was in good established labour managing well, had a V.E (was quite disappointed that she was "Half way"), had pethidine, contractions eased off and she went for a C/S!   from Veronica Herbert (Midwifery Student, University of Ballarat) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac Dear Lynne It is good to hear that you don't use ECG for vbac.  Could you send me some policies regarding this (I hate policies but they seem to be the 'in thing' at the moment and we need those who LOVE policies to start to listen.)  Where do you work? We would also like some stats to back the success of vbac without  ECG. Could I send you a petition for your (obviously intelligent, well run, women focused) place of employment to sign.  Our RANZCOG state committee are trying their DARNDEST to get vbac out of the realm of normal and back into the good old High Risk category.    Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac We don't use continuous EFM for women planning vaginal birth following caesarean, and they use the tub too. Yes, it IS a safe and 'viable' option for women, and the percentage of women giving birth vaginally (since numerical values seem to have more street cred than the experience, as far as you-know-who is concerned) at our unit has consistently been in the high 80's to 90's.   Passion of mine!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac hi everyone, I am wanting to know if anyone can help with a petition being conducted through CARES to maintain vbac is a safe and viable option in birth centres.  The word is that the new perinatal protocols will be calling for all vbacs to be monitored by ECG and thus will remove them from birth centre care. I have a hard copy petition and we are working on an online version but need to know if there is anyone out there that I can send the hard copy to get some signatures?  I am calling on the maternity coalition although I know everyone is busy with NMAP -I am too!!, and also others who are willing to keep vbac safe from induction, augmentation and the other wonderful types of care that can increase the rates of rupture and decrease the woman focused care. Please help as we need to move quickly on this! cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love...