>>actually says she supports much of what
I say, she would never "routine" a bub under 8 weeks BUT - does
believe in routines for bubs over 8 weeks and makes a packet selling her
routines and articles from her website.
Ahh another money making scheme for mothers
that helps them to not believe in their own abilities as a
parent.
>>I certainly don't agree with a lot of
what I have read or that if mothers feed 4 hourly - (the same
time every day) they will make enough milk for their babies - ie their bubs
will get a better feed than if they feed every 2 hours .
Hmmm, love to see her evidence for this.
>>I actually pointed out that I dont
believe mums should need to know what is a hunger cry - crying is a late
hunger cue and got an agreement on that - BUT -she says, its easier to
teach stressed mums to do a routine than to teach them baby cues and they
have nobody to learn that from. She seems to be very into the type of cry.
So, how does a woman who has never had children know even
one childs cries? I find this very strange. All babes are so different and
as you said Pinky, crying is the last sign of hunger, not the
first.
>>She does have some commonsense ideas
and thinks co-sleeping is a good option, but I wish she would stick to these
rather than pushing stuff like the "deep end" approach etc that you would
have read -this is her reaction to controlled crying and she says babies are
only left while they are "tantrumming" not if they are upset and crying
-
A baby "tantrumming"?? Babies cry for a reason and who
likes to be left alone when they feel the need to "tantrum" if that's what
she likes to call it.
>>Tizzie has a PR person working for her
(I feel like a total amateur in comparison, at least in that regard -I
have had kids tho -she hasn't!) .
Speaks for itself really, no kids=amateur in
parenting.
>>She is concerned how she will be
portrayed/ who they will make the "baddie" -ie they could be trying to
recreate the Penelope Leach/ Gina Ford stoush (Im certainly no Gina Ford!!
and am in total awe of Penelope) and also how this will confuse
mothers.
I would be worried to if I was her, but in reality, the
media usually loves the person with the answer to the "problems" babies
cause. I think her ridiculous ideas she gets printed are far more confusing
than a debate would be. Gosh most things she writes goes against a mothers
heart.
>>Her intentions sound good but I am not
sure what to make of all this and havent had any news of the show being
canned because she told me she was planning to "withdraw" - I am happy
to go a round or two with anyone who does babytraining whoever it is and
there are lots of horrific stories out there. If we can give "evidence" for
our stance mothers are big enough to make responsible choices and
babytraining isnt evidence based.
pinky
Maybe the whole phone convo was a bit of a scare tactic,
like you would hopefully say that you didn't want to do it and then Tizzie
wouldn't be the one pulling out. I hope the show does go
ahead Pinky. I am sure that so many of the babes of this world will
thankyou!
Goodluck.
Love Abby- who has major problems with the way Tizzie
writes!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:17
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re Today
show on Monday
Thank goodness they asked YOU to challenge
this woman advocating such awful ideas.
I remember first seeing you on ACA a long
while ago... where you were challenging controlled (er..'cruel')
crying. I e-mailed you immediately - as you spoke from my
heart.
Babies everywhere are SO lucky to have you as
their very vocal advocate!!! x x x x x
Go Pinky!!!
Nicole
-- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 11:37
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re Today
show on Monday
Hi all,
I will be on the Today Show on Monday
at 8.10am - debating agaisnt Tizzie Hall sleep"expert". She's a former
UK childcare worker who advocates strict routines for babies
-you probably all know what I think of that and this is why they
have asked me -I think they are wanting a "stoush" a la Penelope Leach
and Gina Ford!
Pinky
