Re: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH???

[Pinky McKay]

Barb - I have taken home posters to hand out around my 'neighbourhood" - Drs hospital etc   LOVE the Calendar! Pinky  ----- Original Message ----- From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH??? Wouldn't there be special advertising rates for NOT-For-Profit organizations such as ABA?  Or could the government sponsor such an ad as it will ultimately save them lots of money down the track if more women breastfeed.  They are supposedly supporters of pushing the breastfeeding message anyway.  I think it would be great to have that ad in the Australian!   Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Glare & Chris Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH??? Hi,   Yes, complain, please!  Send it to APMAIF.   The money spent on promotion is unbelievable.  I was daydreaming about putting an ad in "Australian Doctor" last week.  I was thinking of a beautiful breastfeeding baby with the words "Breastfeeding.  No false advertsing necesary"  Until I found out the rates.  $16 500 per page.  Unbelievable.   And, Kelly, and others thanks for your support of the Australian Breastfeeding Association.  All money goes into supporting and promoting breastfeeding.   Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH??? After today, I am definitely going to complain. As soon as I heard the words uttered to a consumer that its like breastmilk; I just thought that was so wrong and gave the saleswoman daggers. I don’t like how they are selling the products and relating it to breastmilk, its misleading. And while the main exercise seems to be promoting toddler formula, they are not shying to chat to those with newborns people were walking away with boxes of the stuff, some 2, 3 even 8 boxes. It breaks my heart that they think this stuff is really what they need to give their babies / toddlers the best. My mind started ticking over all these slogans I would love to see in advertising, inspired by the ‘Suck on This’ article that was published in Ecologist Magazine in April, but I will bite my tongue.   Btw. LOVE the new ABA calendar. Will be sure to get one tomorrow, just divine. Yvette actually brought me over some beautiful ABA posters which now proudly decorate my stand!!! I’d love to do more work/promotion with the ABA; I loved the messages on the posters. Just reminded me of how awesome of an organization they are and how wonderful the messages they offer. Keep up the fabulous work guys love it.   Best Regards,   Kelly Zantey From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 5:04 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH???   Well as a M&CHN i was certainly not trained by Wyeth. I paid for it myself at great expense. We did have one session from a company rep talking about formula in the context of those mothers who choose to use formula. It was in relation to how to read the nutritional panel on the tin and what to look for. They were under no illusion when they left that al the women in the room were advocates of breast feeding but I found it quite informative none the less and have found it useful in my role as a M&CHN when relieving for the shires when the breast feeding rates are often abismal. Just out of interest the rep that attended was not from wyeth. I am interested to know where this idea that they are sponsoring M&CHN's comes from and the inference that M&CHN are brainless idiots that cant see through their aadvertising games Andrea On 21/10/2006, at 8:38 AM, jesse/jayne wrote: Really? Is it really happening re Wyeth educating M&CH nurses? Aren't there some Vic M&CH nurses on this list? I read your email Barb. I complain, and complain, and complain....call hotlines/email, customer service lines, magazines etc. They always have an answer. Nothing changes. Sorry to sound negative. It seems to be as steep a mountain to climb as the whole birth thing. There is a whole network of 'lactavists' out there but I see very little difference (if any??) compared to almost 15 years ago when this was all bought to my attention :( Jayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH???   While you are at it, you could complain to the Victorian Office of Children about their decision to keep having their Maternal and child health nurses educated by Wyeth. WTF? My jokes about MCHNs being sponsored by formula companies isn't a joke? Where can I learn more, Barb? Janet   __________ NOD32 1.1821 (20061021) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com