I�d go even further than that. I�ve never worked for Microsoft so I
don�t have a feel for the internal political struggles. My comments are
purely as a developer.
History tells us one of Microsoft�s greatest strengths lies in the
creation and support of developer communities. From the dawn of (MS)
time with Geekfest, throughout the monkey-boy Balmer days and until
today, Microsoft�s mantra has been �developers developers developers
developers developers...�. The developer community now has a life of
it�s own, yet remains a cornerstone of Microsoft�s success. And
Microsoft continues to innovate such that the community grows stronger,
broader, and can react quicker than any other developer community. It�s
an amazing thing to be a part of.
Given all that, it is such a fantastic shame that Microsoft can�t get it
together (and put the icing on the cake) as far as their developer
product websites go. Somehow during the design of these sites, the
message seems to become lost that developers are wonderful craftsmen and
women with an insatiable desire for technical detail. It�s the ultimate
let-down that we can�t point to a Microsoft showcase site and say �this
is what it�s all about�; instead we are ignore these dungheap sites
Microsoft deploy every now and again and focus back inwards to our
communities a little embarrassed by it all.
I�m a proud Microsoft developer and I do love the company. But websites
like this take a little bit of the shine off my pride when I know it
could be just that much better.
Hopefully this hasn�t been the ramblings of old hand. I will continue
to love the company, and hope for the day I can come out as such.
My opinions are my own yadda yadda yadda,
Carl.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott
Barnes <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:50 PM
To: ozSilverlight <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
My vote is to fold mscom/expression and mscom/silverlight into
Silverlight.NET
Tim is touching only the tip of the iceberg, as having 4 sites all
talking about the same thing is just counter-productive and it kind of
makes me chuckle a bit as given the problem of XAML was to ensure both
sides of the isle (developer <-> designer) collaborate. Yet the first
thing Microsoft does is segregate the audiences? J It retards the
potential for skill pollination (teach devs to design, and devs teach
design to code etc) and if anything all it really does is bolster
internal political and egos within (currently 4 factions duking it out
over ownership rights :D)
Now the stark reality is most sites in Microsoft only follow a typical
quantitative analysis for their given sites, which is essentially a
popularity contest in terms of traffic. Yet, the closer i looked at the
data the more I saw nobody was really doing a qualitative analysis as
had they done that, they'd see about 80% of the sites are actually utter
failures and are offering zero value to their consumer base J
"..as long as the graphs keep ascending to the upper right, it's no
questions asked..."
Silverlight.NET is really the only site that has value, the rest are
just mediocrity being celebrated out loud.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:40 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
Welcome to the world of MSFT ;-0
Microsof.com/<product> are usually �marketing� sites � displaying
decision-maker information and case studies, etc.
Silverlight.net serves as a developer community resources: forums,
learning resources, samples, etc. -- *for developers*
-th
Tim Heuer | +1 (602) 405-4567 | Microsoft Silverlight
blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ <http://timheuer.com/blog/> | twitter:
@timheuer <http://twitter.com/timheuer>
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vishwanath
Humpy
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
What is the story with http://silverlight.net/ ? . Will it disappear?
On a positive note it did enlighten me to the silverlight partner
program. I haven't heard about that before.
It sounds good, unless you fail to ship a site within 90 days :-)
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:50:25 +0530 wrote
>
My thoughts are that this site is basically a Tyre Fire on the horizonof
the web.
http://simpsonseps.com/cutenewsupdate/data/upimages/springfield_tire_fir
e.jpg
J
From:
[email protected][mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozs
ilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Craig Dunn
>Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:47 PM
>To: ozSilverlight
>Subject: Re: RE: Silverlight site.
oops - not a great advertisement for Silverlight's x-platformability
http://twitpic.com/17uw53
<http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic%2Eco
m%2F17uw53&isImage=0&BlockImage=0> :-( in safari
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Vishwanath Humpy
<[email protected]> wrote:
is it not a schoolboy(girl)error to have the home page unavailable via
the menus?
>
>once you navigate around you can't get back to the home page directly.
>
>
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]onbehalf Of Scott Barnes
>Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:55 AM
>>To: ozSilverlight
>Subject: Silverlight site.
http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight
<http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emicros
oft%2Ecom%2Fsilverlight&isImage=0&BlockImage=0>
has been updated.
Thoughts? (i.e. i had nothing to do with it so unloadgood/bad)
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