Maybe change? The download progress has changed from the default to "Loading
Silverlight Experience" since yesterday.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Darren Neimke <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Not really sure what we're trying to achieve with this conversation.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Darren Neimke
> [email protected]
> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
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> ------------------------------
> Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:23:59 +1000
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>  I must admit, I was underwhelmed.
>
>
>
> Ross McKinnon
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>
> Michael Hill Jeweller
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> A: 7 Smallwood Place, Murrarie QLD 4172, Australia
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> E: *[email protected]*
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, 12 March 2010 11:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> I’d go even further than that.  I’ve never worked for Microsoft so I don’t
> have a feel for the internal political struggles.  My comments are purely as
> a developer.
>
>
>
> History tells us one of Microsoft’s greatest strengths lies in the creation
> and support of developer communities.  From the dawn of (MS) time with
> Geekfest, throughout the monkey-boy Balmer days and until today, Microsoft’s
> mantra has been “developers developers developers developers
> developers...”.  The developer community now has a life of it’s own, yet
> remains a cornerstone of Microsoft’s success.  And Microsoft continues to
> innovate such that the community grows stronger, broader, and can react
> quicker than any other developer community.  It’s an amazing thing to be a
> part of.
>
>
>
> Given all that, it is such a fantastic shame that Microsoft can’t get it
> together (and put the icing on the cake) as far as their developer product
> websites go.  Somehow during the design of these sites, the message seems to
> become lost that developers are wonderful craftsmen and women with an
> insatiable desire for technical detail.  It’s the ultimate let-down that we
> can’t point to a Microsoft showcase site and say “this is what it’s all
> about”; instead we are ignore these dungheap sites Microsoft deploy every
> now and again and focus back inwards to our communities a little embarrassed
> by it all.
>
>
>
> I’m a proud Microsoft developer and I do love the company.  But websites
> like this take a little bit of the shine off my pride when I know it could
> be just that much better.
>
>
>
> Hopefully this hasn’t been the ramblings of old hand.  I will continue to
> love the company, and hope for the day I can come out as such.
>
>
>
> My opinions are my own yadda yadda yadda,
>
> Carl.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:50 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> My vote is to fold mscom/expression and mscom/silverlight into
> Silverlight.NET
>
>
>
> Tim is touching only the tip of the iceberg, as having 4 sites all talking
> about the same thing is just counter-productive and it kind of makes me
> chuckle a bit as given the problem of XAML was to ensure both sides of the
> isle (developer <-> designer) collaborate. Yet the first thing Microsoft
> does is segregate the audiences? J It retards the potential for skill
> pollination (teach devs to design, and devs teach design to code etc) and if
> anything all it really does is bolster internal political and egos within
> (currently 4 factions duking it out over ownership rights :D)
>
>
>
> Now the stark reality is most sites in Microsoft only follow a typical
> quantitative analysis for their given sites, which is essentially a
> popularity contest in terms of traffic. Yet, the closer i looked at the data
> the more I saw nobody was really doing a qualitative analysis as had they
> done that, they'd see about 80% of the sites are actually utter failures and
> are offering zero value to their consumer base J
>
>
>
> "..as long as the graphs keep ascending to the upper right, it's no
> questions asked..."
>
>
>
> Silverlight.NET is really the only site that has value, the rest are just
> mediocrity being celebrated out loud.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tim Heuer
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2010 1:40 AM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> Welcome to the world of MSFT ;-0
>
>
>
> Microsof.com/<product> are usually ‘marketing’ sites – displaying
> decision-maker information and case studies, etc.
>
> Silverlight.net serves as a developer community resources: forums, learning
> resources, samples, etc. -- **for developers**
>
>
>
> -th
>
>
>
> *Tim Heuer* *|* +1 (602) 405-4567 | *Microsoft Silverlight*
>
> *blog*: http://timheuer.com/blog/ | *twitter: 
> *...@timheuer<http://twitter.com/timheuer>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Vishwanath Humpy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:28 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> What is the story with http://silverlight.net/  ? .  Will it disappear?
>
> On a positive note it did enlighten me to the silverlight partner program.
> I haven't heard about that before.
>
> It sounds good, unless you fail to ship a site within 90 days :-)
>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:50:25 +0530 wrote
> >
>
> My thoughts are that this site is basically a Tyre Fire on the horizonof
> the web.
>
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>
> J
>
> *From:* [email protected][mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Craig Dunn
> >*Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:47 PM
> >*To:* ozSilverlight
> >*Subject:* Re: RE: Silverlight site.
>
> oops - not a great advertisement for Silverlight's x-platformability
>
> http://twitpic.com/17uw53<http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http://twitpic.com/17uw53&isImage=0&BlockImage=0>:-(
> in safari
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Vishwanath Humpy 
> <[email protected]<http:///prism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&[email protected]&output=web&els=2e176912d075299f49c2b4025e4c86f6>>
> wrote:
>
> is it not a schoolboy(girl)error to have the home page unavailable via the
> menus?
> >
> >once you navigate around you can't get back to the home page directly.
> >
> >
>
> *From:* 
> [email protected]<http:///prism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&[email protected]>[mailto:
> [email protected]<http:///prism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&[email protected]&output=web&els=2e176912d075299f49c2b4025e4c86f6>
> ]*OnBehalf Of *Scott Barnes
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> >*Sent:* Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:55 AM
> >>*To:* ozSilverlight
>
> >*Subject:* Silverlight site.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight<http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight&isImage=0&BlockImage=0>
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> has been updated.
>
> Thoughts? (i.e. i had nothing to do with it so unloadgood/bad)
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