You're forgetting where the IETF came from, though. It really was a list, just like this -- people on IRC keeping things like TCP bugs from bringing the Internet to a halt. Then they starting having in-person meetings to make stuff work. Then companies started making money on it and sending people to the meetings.
Sure, I agree those big companies have polluted some of the standards to suit their interests, but the roots of the organization are about as pure as they come. It's just way to easy to demonize anybody and everbody. You really think their goal is to make these standards so complicated that no one else can compete? Implementing standards is just harder period than coming up with your own solution, although in the long run it's a lot easier for everyone. Do you know many people who work in or with the IETF? Have you worked with the IETF? I'm sincerely asking, because I would be surprised if you had and continued to hold your views. They make decisions by "taking a hum" for Christ's sake -- similar the yeahs and the neighs (sp?). These people are the enemy? To me, it's a miraculous example of cooperation amongst frequently competing interests. -Adam On 9/5/07, Michael Slavitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The IETF is really not so different from this list -- a bunch of > people getting together to make stuff work." > > Not so sure about that. > > The goal of participating in a standards body to either make things > work to commoditize the competition or gum things up so that they > never work, are horrendoes to implement, thereby creating barriers to > entry that only you can exploit. > > Look at IMS, for example. > > How easy is it to get ICE working, and I mean >working<, not "working". > > How long has it taken to develop and finalize? > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers >
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