For those that need help with that, try this: http://www.google.com/search?&q=slavitch%20IETF
On 9/5/07, Michael Slavitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know about the IETF. Google is your friend. > > > On 9/5/07, Adam Fisk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you know many people who work in or with the IETF? Have you worked with > > the IETF? I'm sincerely asking, because I would be surprised if you had and > > continued to hold your views. They make decisions by "taking a hum" for > > Christ's sake -- similar the yeahs and the neighs (sp?). These people are > > the enemy? To me, it's a miraculous example of cooperation amongst > > frequently competing interests. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > On 9/5/07, Michael Slavitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > "The IETF is really not so different from this list -- a bunch of > > > people getting together to make stuff work." > > > > > > Not so sure about that. > > > > > > The goal of participating in a standards body to either make things > > > work to commoditize the competition or gum things up so that they > > > never work, are horrendoes to implement, thereby creating barriers to > > > entry that only you can exploit. > > > > > > Look at IMS, for example. > > > > > > How easy is it to get ICE working, and I mean >working<, not "working". > > > > > > How long has it taken to develop and finalize? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > p2p-hackers mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > p2p-hackers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers > > > > > > > -- > Michael Slavitch > Ottawa Ontario Canada > -- Michael Slavitch Ottawa Ontario Canada _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
