Ahhh, got it. thanks.
actually, the director covered that point in the movie. SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BELOW!!!!!!!!! ************** Last WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *********************************\ Old Spock explains the timeline was trashed with the return of the bad-guy ship, and that all he could do at this point was try and minimize the damage but making sure that his younger self still became friends with JTK. I'm sure this was done to placate the time-line police of star trek fandom. --- On Mon, 5/11/09, The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> wrote: From: The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> Subject: [Papermodels II 36435] GONE OT - Re: [Papermodels II 36430] Re: The New Trek To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 12:30 PM Canon is an old hebrew term for "measure" and is applied to Scripture, mythologies and story telling.If a long epic story has a detailed back history, that story must remember the history and keep true to it. This is called Canon.So the 66 books of the bible are canonical books, where as other "lost books" (a silly term) are considered outside of canon as they break the rules of history compared to other scripture and history itself. There is a long and honored history of referring to the Trrek back story as canon as well.The Movies are canonical - the comics are not - the books are not - some of the technical manuals are. So when Kirk is born in space rather than on Earth in Iowa that is considered non-canonical... with wiggle room.When Chekov is on board the Enterprise and an officer whilst Uhrura and Kirk who are older and always outrank him are still cadets yet giving him orders... well, that is just illogical... and non-canonical. So I loved the movie... but I wish some things would have made more sense. Like - I don't care what you do, you don't go from a three year cadet to captain of the Federation Flagship, promoted over 5 grades of rank and over 1000s of candidates. But I ramble.-The Haggard On May 12, 2009, at 12:13 AM, [email protected] wrote: I realize that, I just don't understand what the canon reference is. --- On Mon, 5/11/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Papermodels II 36426] Re: The New Trek To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:46 AM Jon, He didn't say it wasn't a good movie. He said it did not follow established precedent enough - for his scale of judging. JoeG -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:29 am Subject: [Papermodels II 36425] Re: The New Trek 3/10 canon??? I don't get it. my new scale on judging movies in my family is how long the discussion after the movie goes on for. We were laughing and talking about the movie for hours after on Sat night, and continued over breakfast on Sunday. That's a record breaker for us. The movie was everything it is supposed to be and a weeee bit more... --- On Mon, 5/11/09, The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> wrote: From: The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> Subject: [Papermodels II 36422] The New Trek To: "papermodels II" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:02 AM Love it or hate it... the n ew Trek has a BUNCH of new ships to model... I can't wait. besides the Kelvin and the Big-E: There is a ship with KELVIN parts that has two engines and two secondaries looking kind of like the Reliant from ST:TWOK There is also a three engined ship with Kelvin parts. There is also an on screen representation of the Kubyashi Maru that looks grand! I will NOT be designing any model of the Narada nor will I build one designed by another... too much! 10 of 10 for the models and FX... 9 of 10 for the acting and pace... 7 of 10 for the story... 3 of 10 for the adherence to canon. Well worth the buckage. -The Haggard --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Papermodels II" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Papermodels?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
