Unfortunately this cannot explain the things that are badly changed BEFORE Spock and Nero's return. Also, some things cannot change just because they returned. It is a protracted discussion, but there are just too many logic holes in the story.
-The Haggard On May 12, 2009, at 12:51 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Ahhh, got it. thanks. > > > actually, the director covered that point in the movie. > > > SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BELOW!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > ************** > > > > Last WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > *********************************\ > > > > > Old Spock explains the timeline was trashed with the return of the > bad-guy ship, and that all he could do at this point was try and > minimize the damage but making sure that his younger self still > became friends with JTK. I'm sure this was done to placate the time- > line police of star trek fandom. > > > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> > wrote: > From: The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> > Subject: [Papermodels II 36435] GONE OT - Re: [Papermodels II 36430] > Re: The New Trek > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 12:30 PM > > Canon is an old hebrew term for "measure" and is applied to > Scripture, mythologies and story telling. > If a long epic story has a detailed back history, that story must > remember the history and keep true to it. This is called Canon. > So the 66 books of the bible are canonical books, where as other > "lost books" (a silly term) are considered outside of canon as they > break the rules of history compared to other scripture and history > itself. > > There is a long and honored history of referring to the Trrek back > story as canon as well. > The Movies are canonical - the comics are not - the books are not - > some of the technical manuals are. > > So when Kirk is born in space rather than on Earth in Iowa that is > considered non-canonical... with wiggle room. > When Chekov is on board the Enterprise and an officer whilst Uhrura > and Kirk who are older and always outrank him are still cadets yet > giving him orders... well, that is just illogical... and non- > canonical. > > So I loved the movie... but I wish some things would have made more > sense. Like - I don't care what you do, you don't go from a three > year cadet to captain of the Federation Flagship, promoted over 5 > grades of rank and over 1000s of candidates. > > But I ramble. > -The Haggard > > > On May 12, 2009, at 12:13 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> I realize that, I just don't understand what the canon reference is. >> >> --- On Mon, 5/11/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Papermodels II 36426] Re: The New Trek >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:46 AM >> >> Jon, >> >> He didn't say it wasn't a good movie. >> He said it did not follow established precedent enough - for his >> scale of judging. >> >> >> JoeG >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:29 am >> Subject: [Papermodels II 36425] Re: The New Trek >> >> 3/10 canon??? I don't get it. >> >> my new scale on judging movies in my family is how long the >> discussion after the movie goes on for. We were laughing and >> talking about the movie for hours after on Sat night, and continued >> over breakfast on Sunday. That's a record breaker for us. >> >> The movie was everything it is supposed to be and a weeee bit more... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Mon, 5/11/09, The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> From: The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Papermodels II 36422] The New Trek >> To: "papermodels II" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:02 AM >> >> Love it or hate it... the n >> ew Trek has a >> BUNCH of new ships to >> >> model... I can't wait. besides the Kelvin and the Big-E: >> >> >> >> There is a ship with KELVIN parts that has two engines and two >> >> secondaries looking kind of like the Reliant from ST:TWOK >> >> >> >> There is also a three engined ship with Kelvin parts. There is also >> >> an on screen representation of the Kubyashi Maru that looks grand! >> >> >> >> I will NOT be designing any model of the Narada nor will I build one >> >> designed by another... too much! >> >> >> >> 10 of 10 for the models and FX... 9 of 10 for the acting and >> pace... 7 >> >> of 10 for the story... 3 of 10 for the adherence to canon. >> >> >> >> Well worth the >> buckage. >> >> >> >> -The Haggard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Papermodels II" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Papermodels?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
