Sometimes they knock one out of the park with the remake. Batman Begins, The 
Dark Knight and Star Trek (2009) were all excellent. Then again, sometimes you 
end up with Garfield.

> Subject: [Papermodels II 40580] Re: OT: THEM
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:24:48 +0800
> To: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Yeah, I see them as crap mostly.
> As to message... some of them try to change the message and "update"  
> it, Hence, ruining the message.
> If they have a new message they should make a new story.  let the old  
> message stay with the old story because it was WRITTEN for it.  But,  
> on occasion, I like a remake.  I, for one, did not "mind" the King  
> Kong remake.  No, it was not the classic and it is not going to BE a  
> classic.... but I enjoyed the art and SFX.   I thought the American  
> Godzilla stank as a story and as far as any acting is concerned... but  
> I never watched Godzilla for the acting. It was the monster... and I  
> can compartmentalize this movie as something different than the "real"  
> Godzilla.  It was a fun flick for a waste of time.
> 
> But over all... most of the remakes today lose the soul of the  
> originals because it is all about MONEY and bean-counting.  The  
> studios was tried and true movies rather then innovation and  
> experimentation because they want the built in fan base to bring money  
> even if the flick is a stinker.  But when a remake comes along that  
> was all about love and creation rather than money, well, I'll give it  
> a shot.
> 
> -M
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Paul McCool wrote:
> 
> >
> > I will accept that.  What I should have said in my previous post  
> > was, that
> > the '50's originals generally had an underlying theme behind them,  
> > usually
> > dealing with the dangers of a specific social concern, such as nuclear
> > warfare or Communism.  The remakes of these films usually cast aside  
> > any
> > social relevance in favor of more action and effects.
> >
> > You are right, I shouldn't say that remakes shouldn't be made, but I  
> > will
> > reserve the right to call them crap when they deserve it.
> >
> > Paul M.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Haggard 何麥可" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:02 PM
> > Subject: [Papermodels II 40578] Re: OT: THEM
> >
> >
> >
> > Not sure how either of those points speaks to Cat's statement.  :)
> > Though I can see where it applies to earlier statements.
> > I just don't agree with a blanket dismissal.  Most remakes are crap.
> > Some, occasionally, surprise.
> > I am a nearly chaotic libertarian in most things.  The remakes do not
> > detract from the originals... the originals still exist... so let
> > people TRY and do their best.  perhaps out of 100s of wastes we will
> > find one treasure.
> >
> > -M
> >
> >
> > On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Paul McCool wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> That's different, 1) that's TV, and 2) Battlestar Galactica was
> >> hardly an
> >> allegorical commentary on modern social issues.
> >>
> >> Paul M.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "The Haggard 何麥可" <[email protected]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:31 PM
> >> Subject: [Papermodels II 40576] Re: OT: THEM
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Oh... I donno know....
> >>> I like the new Battlestar Galactica... sure, it's reimagined...
> >>> But I hated the original even as a junior high kid when it came out
> >>> at
> >>> the peak of Star Wars fever.
> >>>
> >>> -The Haggard
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:26 AM, cat wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris Spitler wrote:
> >>>>> I'm with ya there. Remember the remake of...urk...Godzilla?
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, yes. Once again demonstrating the adage, "Never let Americans
> >>>> remake or adapt ANYTHING!!!". Everyone else seems to make fine
> >>>> remakes,
> >>>> some even beat the original but I have never seen a US made remake
> >>>> that
> >>>> was even a fraction as good as the original and most often had so
> >>>> little
> >>>> in common with the original as to be a wholly different picture
> >>>> with a
> >>>> familiar title.
> >>>>
> >>>> cat
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> > 
                                          
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