I always try to see the movies as different and not compare the
original with the new one. But when is crap, is crap, old or new!

On Oct 27, 1:24 am, The Haggard 何麥可 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, I see them as crap mostly.
> As to message... some of them try to change the message and "update"  
> it, Hence, ruining the message.
> If they have a new message they should make a new story.  let the old  
> message stay with the old story because it was WRITTEN for it.  But,  
> on occasion, I like a remake.  I, for one, did not "mind" the King  
> Kong remake.  No, it was not the classic and it is not going to BE a  
> classic.... but I enjoyed the art and SFX.   I thought the American  
> Godzilla stank as a story and as far as any acting is concerned... but  
> I never watched Godzilla for the acting. It was the monster... and I  
> can compartmentalize this movie as something different than the "real"  
> Godzilla.  It was a fun flick for a waste of time.
>
> But over all... most of the remakes today lose the soul of the  
> originals because it is all about MONEY and bean-counting.  The  
> studios was tried and true movies rather then innovation and  
> experimentation because they want the built in fan base to bring money  
> even if the flick is a stinker.  But when a remake comes along that  
> was all about love and creation rather than money, well, I'll give it  
> a shot.
>
> -M
>
> On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Paul McCool wrote:
>
>
>
> > I will accept that.  What I should have said in my previous post  
> > was, that
> > the '50's originals generally had an underlying theme behind them,  
> > usually
> > dealing with the dangers of a specific social concern, such as nuclear
> > warfare or Communism.  The remakes of these films usually cast aside  
> > any
> > social relevance in favor of more action and effects.
>
> > You are right, I shouldn't say that remakes shouldn't be made, but I  
> > will
> > reserve the right to call them crap when they deserve it.
>
> > Paul M.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "The Haggard 何麥可" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:02 PM
> > Subject: [Papermodels II 40578] Re: OT: THEM
>
> > Not sure how either of those points speaks to Cat's statement.  :)
> > Though I can see where it applies to earlier statements.
> > I just don't agree with a blanket dismissal.  Most remakes are crap.
> > Some, occasionally, surprise.
> > I am a nearly chaotic libertarian in most things.  The remakes do not
> > detract from the originals... the originals still exist... so let
> > people TRY and do their best.  perhaps out of 100s of wastes we will
> > find one treasure.
>
> > -M
>
> > On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Paul McCool wrote:
>
> >> That's different, 1) that's TV, and 2) Battlestar Galactica was
> >> hardly an
> >> allegorical commentary on modern social issues.
>
> >> Paul M.
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "The Haggard 何麥可" <[email protected]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:31 PM
> >> Subject: [Papermodels II 40576] Re: OT: THEM
>
> >>> Oh... I donno know....
> >>> I like the new Battlestar Galactica... sure, it's reimagined...
> >>> But I hated the original even as a junior high kid when it came out
> >>> at
> >>> the peak of Star Wars fever.
>
> >>> -The Haggard
>
> >>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:26 AM, cat wrote:
>
> >>>> Chris Spitler wrote:
> >>>>> I'm with ya there. Remember the remake of...urk...Godzilla?
>
> >>>> Oh, yes. Once again demonstrating the adage, "Never let Americans
> >>>> remake or adapt ANYTHING!!!". Everyone else seems to make fine
> >>>> remakes,
> >>>> some even beat the original but I have never seen a US made remake
> >>>> that
> >>>> was even a fraction as good as the original and most often had so
> >>>> little
> >>>> in common with the original as to be a wholly different picture
> >>>> with a
> >>>> familiar title.
>
> >>>> cat
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