Mkhize Please let's be honest. In the PAC terminology (Sobukwe's speeches and manifesto) there is a term race but the party insists that it does not possess any scientific use or political significance. Sobukwe argues that the concept was but a mere construct arbitrarily used to further the subjugation and exploitation of Africans and other peoples viewed by European colonialists as of inferior type. He insists further that race does not have a plural form. The party talks about one race, the human race. Regarding your charge that I "know more about Marx that your PAC", nothing in the party's basic documents prohibits members from reading and studying whatever system of thought or ideology to increase our knowledge. Ignorance, the PAC says, is a punishable crime.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 21 December 2009 03:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Ideology > Ma'Afrika, We Jack!!!! Go and consult the PAC Basic Document, you talk about Race, in th ePAC Vocablary we do not talk about that, when did you join th ePAC,why can't you read basisc thingsa for the PAC, you seems to know more about Marx than your PAC. Pleaz respond to me Direct I will lend u material, ok. Frm Bheki Mkhize Kwa-mashu Branch Cell: 083 4933384 mkhizebehi2ananzi.co.za > > I would like to find out about the significant difference between > socialists in the ANC and those in the PAC if there is any? I'm of the > view that Pan Africanism is scientific as it changes time and material > conditions. > > Shango lashu! > > Briza > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Mawande Jack <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ma-Afrika! >> >> I move from the assumption and premise that we in the PAC are Pan >> Africanists or Africanists to employ Anton Lembede's concept. >> >> Pan-Africanism, our overall philosophical outlook and movement which >> combines, unite and bestow to Africans all over the world national >> historical and political expression is the first antidote to the >> doctrine of ordering and construction of the world especially our >> continent and humankind in the image of the European or west. >> This deliberate and calculated global project of constructing the >> world, our continent in particular, in the image of Europe where >> history, philosophy, knowledge, education, economics, culture, >> politics and science bear only the stamp of Europe to project >> themselves as a Master Race >> (Herrenvolkism) should be what Pan-Africanists must wage in a >> relentless struggle against. >> It is for this reason that PAC's status campaign and the concept of >> mental revolution hold such a profound significance in that our >> struggle struggle must be to render the myths of white supremacy or >> Herrenvolkism mentally untenable. These Herrenvolkik myths abound in >> western scholarship, science, philosophy, religion and the media. >> They distort reality and foster within the African person a sense of >> false consciouness, false illusions of self, hero worshipping of, >> fear of and dependency on whites who we view as our mentors but not >> as equals or as huiman beings like us. However, only through the use >> of African nationalism which operates as an illuminator of our >> history and past achievements, a restorer of our pride as Africans >> and an enabler in rediscovering our true human potential as Africans, >> can Pan Africanism succeed in this noblest liberatory mission of >> subverting the racist colonialist white spremacist myths. >> But African nationalism without approapriating unto itself and its >> Pan Africanist programme scientific analytical tools derived from >> Marxism or scientific socialism, it would be hard to penetrate and >> lay bare these racist white supremacist myths which are deeply >> embedded and entrenched in western philosophy, religion, science, and >> history as found in the world's dominant ideologies. >> With a Pan Africanist orientation that is tempered in African >> nationalism, one can also find some shortcomings and anomalies in >> Marxism and other ideologies, analyse and apply those theories in >> consonance with our peculiar African historical, cultural and >> material circumstances. The importance of Marxist dialetics and >> historical materialism as an appropriated philosophical element of >> Pan Aftricanism, is that we guard against romanticising about our >> African past and history but to study and understand it critically as >> a dynamic and universal process. >> Some call that Pan Africanist mode and tradition of analysis and >> understanding, Afrocentrism, or an African-centered approach. >> The importance of employing the scientific socialist analysis to our >> situation is based on fact that African society is, like any other >> other society, dynamic, is subject to change and develops both >> evolutionary and revolutionary towards a qualitatively higher and >> complex stage, is not static, hence it is important to study the laws >> of social development. >> Herein, in my understanding, is the link between Pan Africanism, >> African nationalism and Marxism (scientific socialism). All applied >> together, I believe must ultimately enable the party to establish a >> dynamic Africanist socialist democracy free from backwardness, racist >> myths and underdevelopment, which ensures progress and guarantees >> conditions necessary for the realisation of the full potential of an >> African person for him or her to project his or her African >> Personality as a universal being who commands influence in the world >> in all sectors of human activity. >> Remember >> we engage in struggle for an African to ultimately make a lasting >> contribution in human progress and civilisation. >> >> Izwelethu!! >> >> Mawande Jack >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Mohlomphegi Mphahlele >> *Sent:* 16 December 2009 07:28 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] Ideology >> >> Majoni! >> >> Please let me take this opportunity to further elaborate more on the >> question of Ideology. The truth is that we have comrades who regard >> themselves as Marxist within PAC. Unfortunately this comrades in >> their study of Marxism they somehow missed Marxism on the question of >> a National Struggle. If I may qoute Marxist cannot be envolved with >> theoritically upholding Internationalism that they dismiss their own >> Nation's concrete National Liberation Struggle. If that happens that >> would be a caricature of Marxism. Mao referes to those people as >> people who want to liquidate the National question.Nationalism means >> exclusivism and isolation. African Nationalism means and is for >> equality not superiority. As Africans we are the vivtims of >> Nationalism that preaches superiority and inferiority. >> The >> masses of Africa wants national equality, democratic rights for their >> nationality equal with all other nations. >> >> Buorgeois Nationalism( ochestrated by ANC,SACP and BEE) isolates the >> oppresed masses from their mass allies and delivers them into the >> hands of the exploiters and reactionaries of their own nationality. >> The succesful National Liberation Movement unless is let by the >> working class, it will only defeat foreighn domination, it does not >> eliminate class exploitation.This is the case with ANC. We have seen >> liberation Movements defeat foreighn domination only to become >> Neo-Colonial states governed by a domestic buorgeousie who are >> absolutely in collaboration with the Ex-rulers(former colonialists). >> >> Investment under Neo-Colonialism increases rather than decrease the >> gap between the rich and the poor. Neo-colonialism is the worst form >> of imerialism, those who practice it (neo-colonialism) means power >> without responsibility and for those who suffer from it means >> exploitation without redress. >> >> Comrades who raise or partake in the debates of this issues need to >> consult. Unless you understand PAC and PAN AFRICANISM one will always >> find it difficult to understand and deal with this contradictions. >> Our words and actions should help to unite and not to devide PAC. >> They should be beneficial and not harmful to PAC unity and Africanist >> Socialist construction.Our words and actions should help to >> consolidate and not to undermine or weaken our democratic centralism. >> Our words and actions should help to strengthen and not to discard or >> weaken the leadership of the PAC. >> >> The method of handling contradictions among PAC cadreship should be >> by the democratic method. The method of discussion, of critisism, of >> persuation and education and not by the method of coercion or >> repression. >> >> Innevitably the enemies of PAC will give expression to their own >> ideologies. They will stubbonly express themselves on political and >> ideological question by every means. We should not use the method of >> repression and prevent them from expressing themselves, we should >> allow them to do so and at the same time argue with them and direct >> apropriete criticism to them. We must undoubtedly criticise wrong >> ideas of every description. >> >> It certainly would not be right to refrain from criticism, we cannot >> look and say nothing as wrong ideas spread unchecked and allow them >> to monopolize the situation. Unfortunately we did so. Mistakes must >> be criticised and poisonous weeds fought wherever they crop up. Such >> criticism should not be dogmatic. What is needed is scientific >> analysis and convincing arguments. To criticise comrades short >> comings is necessary. in doing so we must truly take the stand of the >> Pan Africanists and speak out whole-heartedly with eagerness to >> protect and educate them. TREATING COMRADES LIKE ENEMIES IS TO GO >> OVER THE STAND OF THE ENEMY. >> >> Some comrades in the PAC have become arrogant and high-handed in >> their behavior towards other comrades. They always blame other >> comrades but never themselves.They always see their own achievement >> but never their own short comings. this comrades assert to the notion >> of "idipendence" usually wedded to the doctrine of "me first" and are >> generally wrong on the question of the relationship between the >> individual and the PAC. Though in words they profess respect for the >> PAC in practice they put themselves first and the PAC second. >> >> This comrades are after fame and position and want to be in the >> limelight. >> When they are put in charge they assert their "indipendence" with >> this aim they draw some comrades in, push others out and they resort >> to boasting and touting among the comrades importing their valgur >> style of the bourgeois political parties like ANC into PAC. It is >> their dishonesty that causes their grief. >> >> I believe we should do things honestly for without an honest attitude >> it is absolutely impossible to accomplish anything in this world. >> >> COMRADES LETS WORK TIRELESLY TO PREVENT THE PAC GAINS IN THE STRUGGLE >> FOR A SOCIALIST DEMOCRATIC AZANIA AND AFRIKA. >> >> Forward to a socialist revolution.tomorrow a United Monolithic Giant >> Socialist Afrika!!! >> Izwe Lethu!!!! >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> ** >> >> -- >> Sending your posting to [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] >> >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco >> >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com >> >> -- >> Sending your posting to [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] >> >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco >> >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com >> > > > > -- > Thomas Mutavhatsindi > Briza Business Enterprise > Cell: +27 76 213 1770 > Fax: 086 655 8967 > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
