You touched on the problem right there. Every single thing you download from BARD is copy protected. Meaning, if you can't aford to purchase one of their select authorized players, or if you can't get the government to pay for one for you, yet you still want to actually be able to use what you legally have access to, you can't. Unless you break their copy protection, which the BARD loyalists will officially and immediately declare piracy. That isn't piracy, however. You have access to the material. You were allowed, by BARD, to download the material. You are authorized, by BARD, to keep, and listen to, everything you download from them indefinitely. The only thing BARD doesn't authorize you to do is listen to it while you're out somewhere without first going broke. *That* is what promotes piracy. If I have the choice to download something from BARD, fork over a couple hundred dollars for one of their authorized players, and then listen to the book while I'm on my way to work, or download a torrent of the same book, and copy it to the MP3 player I already have, which option do you think I'm going to go for? Same thing with people who find ways to break BARD's copy protection. They want the material, but either don't want to or can't aford to buy one of BARD's blessed players. They still want the material, and they still want to be able to listen to it while on their way to work. They already have a portable player, but by BARD's logic, you absolutely must buy a second portable player, just for BARD, or you'll be declared a pirate. Sorry, no. I already bought one. And it cost a whole lot less than the VR Stream.
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of mitchell Sent: April 18, 2010 11:46 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing Your rite, but after you download the file you don't return it. The books you download are coppy protected, so how are you not steeling it then. Your not so if you have permition to cop that file the if you have the permition of someone else to do the sam thing then you aren't steeling that either. Mitchell -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. There is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type services. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mitchell" <mitchellgre...@gmail.com> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use > bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books. > Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am > concerned. > Mitchell > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing > > Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing." > Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you > download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it? > Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and > audio books without having to pay a dime for it. > Explain that one to me, if you can! > John. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom" <t...@pc-audio.org> > To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM > Subject: It's Still Stealing > > >> It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to >> copy it. >> >> Tom >> >> ** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P ** >> >High Tom, >> >I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to >> do it. >> >If he says yes, then I do it. >> >But if he says no, then it doesn't happen. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org