You touched on the problem right there. Every single thing you download
from
BARD is copy protected. Meaning, if you can't aford to purchase one of
their
select authorized players, or if you can't get the government to pay for
one
for you, yet you still want to actually be able to use what you legally
have
access to, you can't. Unless you break their copy protection, which the
BARD
loyalists will officially and immediately declare piracy. That isn't
piracy,
however. You have access to the material. You were allowed, by BARD, to
download the material. You are authorized, by BARD, to keep, and listen
to,
everything you download from them indefinitely. The only thing BARD
doesn't
authorize you to do is listen to it while you're out somewhere without
first
going broke. *That* is what promotes piracy. If I have the choice to
download something from BARD, fork over a couple hundred dollars for one
of
their authorized players, and then listen to the book while I'm on my way
to
work, or download a torrent of the same book, and copy it to the MP3
player
I already have, which option do you think I'm going to go for? Same thing
with people who find ways to break BARD's copy protection. They want the
material, but either don't want to or can't aford to buy one of BARD's
blessed players. They still want the material, and they still want to be
able to listen to it while on their way to work. They already have a
portable player, but by BARD's logic, you absolutely must buy a second
portable player, just for BARD, or you'll be declared a pirate. Sorry,
no. I
already bought one. And it cost a whole lot less than the VR Stream.
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of mitchell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:46 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Your rite, but after you download the file you don't return it. The books
you download are coppy protected, so how are you not steeling it then.
Your
not so if you have permition to cop that file the if you have the
permition
of someone else to do the sam thing then you aren't steeling that either.
Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for
their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize.
There
is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type
services.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mitchell"<mitchellgre...@gmail.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use
bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books.
Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am
concerned.
Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing."
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you
download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it?
Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and
audio books without having to pay a dime for it.
Explain that one to me, if you can!
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom"<t...@pc-audio.org>
To:<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: It's Still Stealing
It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to
copy it.
Tom
** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
High Tom,
I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to
do it.
If he says yes, then I do it.
But if he says no, then it doesn't happen.