At 07:53 AM 11/3/01 +0800, you wrote:
>hi
>just got my new dsl line. it comes in on a Lucent Model DSL-CELL-50A 
>router thingie. i hooked it up to my 5-port linksys hub. i followed the 
>directions (wintel directions only    :(  ) and got pc connection 
>working...but i can't get mac working.
>the network settings for pc were
>
>use dhcp
>use dhcp for WINS resolution
>disable DNS
>
>on the mac (7200 OS 8.1), i set TCP/IP to connect via Ethernet and 
>configure using DHCP Server. There don't seem to be any more options there

If I'm understanding you right, it shouldn't matter... The systems can see 
(at least ping?) each other on the "inside" network?
Troubleshoot that first. In other words (again, I'm assuming this was your 
setup, simplified):

----DSL line in ------- [Router] ------Rest of Network - at least one PC
                                                                       \ at 
least one Mac

The PC and Mac SHOULD be able to ping each other. Do they have set IP 
addresses on the internal network?

What should (in theory) happen is this - Say the PC is 192.168.000.001 (IP 
address,) and the Mac is 192.168.000.002. You should be able to go to 
Windows, pick the MS DOS prompt from the menu, and type "Ping 
192.168.000.002" and get a response.

If that happens, internally, your network is good.

The next thing that should happen - the purpose of the router is to 
differentiate between internal and external traffic. So if it sees a 
request (say, a file transfer) from the PC to the Mac's IP addresses, it 
ignores it. But if it sees a request from either one to go to, say, 
www.apple.com (which has a totally different IP address,) it grabs that, 
finds a DNS server, translates www.apple.com to the web server's IP 
address, and sends your request along.

The router, by the way, should have its own IP address, given to it by the 
DSL provider. At least, that's how it works in most cases.

The router is *truly* a router, and not just a modem, right? (I'm not 
familiar with that one, so....)

If worst comes to worst, you could (byzantine solution follows) do this, 
since you KNOW the PC works:
1. Go to http://www.analogx.com. Download their "Proxy" program. Run it on 
the PC machine.
2. There will be a file called "Proxy.txt" with settings (HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, 
etc.) - bring this up.
3. Go to the Mac. Bring up your web browser(s.)
4. Tell the BROWSERS to connect via proxy (this also works with email, read 
the proxy.txt) - give it the PC's IP address, and the ports specified in 
the PROXY.TXT file.

It's actually NOT that hard - it's how my PowerMac connects through my PC's 
dialup line.  Never gave me any problems...

-Eric


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