Harold, using a particular program because you like how it looks is not stupid, in fact it is one of the most important things that sells newer versions of programs. If a user like yourself or anyone else has difficulty using a newer version because they can't find something on the toolbar, then how long will it be before they go back to their old program or take their business elsewhere? Not long at all.

My wife is like you Harold in that she started using Netscape for browsing and email before IE ever became popular or OE came into being. When Netscape 6x came out she tried it for a while and then went back to 4.79, then Mozilla became stable and she now uses it. It doesn't have all the AOL stuff found in Netscape 7x which she doesn't use anyway plus it has excellent spam filters in the email client, pop-up blocking and tabbed browsing built in to the browser client.

I have not come across any web sites that will not work with Mozilla ever, some sites look differently between IE and Mozilla or Netscape but like I said I have not found any that would not work for either.

A great thing with Netscape/Mozilla Harold, is that for web design testing you can have multiple versions of the browser installed on one system, I've had Netscape 3, 4, 6 and Mozilla 1.5 installed at the same time with no problems. Just remember when you install each browser that you should place them in different directory's so one doesn't overwrite another :)

So if you have time to look at another browser then I think you would be happy with Mozilla http://www.mozilla.org/

AVG is a very competent checker, another free checker is the H+BEDV checker http://www.free-av.com/. These personal or non-commercial programs are free because the companies also rely on paid versions for business's or corporations that need desktop or server protection as well. Since I (and many of my clients) are on dialup the small update files now used by AVG are very convenient, what with all the wet weather the phone line's are taking a beating and downloads are strained.

It looks like Hugh's CSS guidance is proving well for you Harold, I think you both should be applauded.

Peter Kaulback

In the hour of 11:14 PM 11/22/2003, Harold B spoke this:

Hello again,

Hugh again, thank you for all your html teaching regarding
the table tags that will take the place of the marginwidth
tags (those that are inside the body tags). Maybe gradually,
as I review the files in individual sections of the site, I'll
make those changes.

Same thing with the CSS tags that obviate the need for font
tags within the page. Usually I don't do it but should I want
to change the font size for any line within the page, I'm
assuming that in that case, I would have to do that with a
<font> </font> tag.

While I'm typing this, I have that AVG v*irus checker going;
I've already removed all references to McAfee (which I really
never used because I felt it was doing nothing). That AVG is
beautiful (and it's the free version), and it found one v*irus
in my Page1 folder, which I think it removed. I say that
because upon re-running the checker, it found no v*irus.

For anyone interested, it can be obtained at
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php just follow the links
to their download page. What I found interesting is that when
registering to get a registration code to complete the setup
(all that's required is your name, an email address, and your
country), giving them a hotmail address doesn't work. When I
gave them this harold7 address, the registration was accepted.
It took me four different registrations and two downloads to
figure that one out.

It also checked that Read/Write CD I keep in my D-drive. That
R/W CD is where I keep all backups and copies of whatever
programs I've downloaded from the internet and which I think
are valuable. AVG looks like one of the best things to come
down the pike. My question is, why do they make this available
to me; I haven't paid them a penny. I guess I can ask that
about many of the freebies I've downloaded in my computer
experience.

I'm still using Net 4.79 the reason is stupid but it "kinda"
looks good to me; that's the only look I've ever seen. What's
that about "old habits"? In time I'll probably graduate to Net
7.1 or Explorer.

Harold
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