On 11/19/2012 09:07 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
----- Original Message -----

That's not a reason to _suppress_ dsp with dynamic patching,
because the process would work exactly the same regardless.

i think this is simply a bug in Pd.

i do some live-coding using dynamic patching, and found that saving the patch would re-compute the dsp-graph (i'm using abstractions, so saving will eventually re-instantiate a number of abstractions, which triggers a reavaulation of the dsp-graph; so i found that in practice this bug is not such a big problem for _me_)

I've never seen an external in svn where [abstraction1] would rely on an
internal [loadbang] in order to send a message to its outlet.

well, very few *externals* (as in "atomic" (non-openable) objects written mostly in C) do anything with loadbangs.

anyhow, even if we are talking only about abstractions, i think your assumption, that just because [loadbang] is not used in the described way anywhere in the Pd-svn, this behaviour could simply be changed is not a valid one.

i'd very much like to see [initbang] and [closebang] in Pd-proper though.



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