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Have you tried printing to the HPs using a PostScript driver, rather than PCL? Does your Konica have a PostScript option? One should be available. My guess is that you need to print to PostScript, rather than PCL. Hope this helps. Rich Sprague > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Edwin H. Bideau III > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PDF-Basics] Print Out Problems with PDF > > > > PDF-Basics is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > OK, here is the info on our set up. > > We are running on Windows 2000 workstations, peer to peer. We > are printing > to an HP4050 and an HP2200d. The workstations are fairly new > Dells with 256 > memory, running at 2.4. We also print to a Konica 7031 copy > machine that is > supposed to output at 30PPM but it seems to be even slower > with it. The > Konica has the max printer memory installed. These are all > PCL and we are > printing from Adobe Acrobat 5. > > What else do I need to tell you? Let me know and I will get > it. I sincerely > appreciate the help. > > Ed Bideau III > > > > At 10:25 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >PDF-Basics is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > >http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >It is also possible that the printer driver and/or format is > creating > >part > >of the problem. You could be having data transfer problems to the > >devices. It may be a processing issue on the workstation > where you're > >printing. None of these would be PDF specific, but since > you're dealing > >with files which are outputting considerably more data any > bottlenecks > >will become much more pronounced. > > > >If you pause the printer and allow the buffer to fill up do things > >print > >any faster when the jobs are released? Are these Postscript > devices, PCL, > >etc.? Vector mode PS, which is what you would normally get > with Word > >docs, etc., is much faster than raster mode PS. For raster mode > >operations some other format is normally faster. That is > also true in > >vector mode in most cases, but the trade off isn't as > noticeable. If you > >can give us printer model and driver specifics along with > platform and OS > >information may be helpful as well. While these types of > things are less > >common on normal letter and legal size docs we run into them quite > >frequently on large format output. They may not be the > primary culprit, > >but it never hurts to eliminate the possible causes. > > > >At 08:26 PM 6/5/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>PDF-Basics is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > >>http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >>__________________________________________________________________ > >> > >>We are using 300 dpi and it still prints out very slow. I > dont see how > >>anyone ever gets data out of scanned files with printing at this > >>extremely slow speed. Its the coming thing I guess but is > a hell of a > >>lot slower than flipping through a paper file. > >> > >> > >>>PDF-Basics is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > >>>http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >>>__________________________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Edwin, > >>> > >>> Scanned pages will take longer than word files that just > >>>contain text, the reason behind this is the amount of information > >>>that a scan contains versus the amount of info that a > typeface (font) > >>>contains. Scans are made of pixels the more pixels or ppi, > dpi, then > >>>the larger the file and therefore the longer the file will take to > >>>'RIP' and subsequently print. There are a few ways of > increasing the > >>>time to print. Scan your pages at a lower resolution try starting > >>>from 400dpi, scan in bitmap (1bit) not grayscale (8bit), > if you are > >>>using distiller to create the pdfs lower the downsampling > resolution, > >>>by trial and error you will find the trade off between the > speed and > >>>the quality you require. Additionally there is OCR software (other > >>>list members will be able to suggest some brands) available that > >>>will convert your scans to fonts this will then achieve a > speed more > >>>likened to the word file processing times you are trying > to achieve. > >>> > >>> Good Luck > >>> > >>> Martin > >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: Edwin H. Bideau III [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:29 PM > >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > Subject: [PDF-Basics] Print Out Problems with PDF > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > PDF-Basics is a service provided by PDFzone.com | > >>> > http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >>> > > __________________________________________________________________ > >>> > > >>> > I am having a devil of a time printing out PDF files. We have > >>> > started scanning files for legal cases which is working > fine but > >>> > printing out > >>> is a > >>> > > >>> > real trouble. > >>> > > >>> > We are running HP printers that are 21 PPM fast printers and > >>> > really kick out regular word processing files promptly. > However, > >>> > when we try to print out a PDF file, particularly one that has > >>> > been Bates numbered, it > >>> slows to > >>> > > >>> > a crawl taking 30 secs or more to send each page over to the > >>> > printer. > >>> > > >>> > It is even worse with a networked Konica copy > machine/scanner that > >>> > is supposed to print at 30 PPM. This machine has all available > >>> > print memory you can buy but it seems like it is > receiving the PDF > >>> > file one page at a time, thinking about it, printing > it, shutting > >>> > down, waking up, getting the next page and printing. It is > >>> > printing maybe 8 PPM max. > >>> > > >>> > When the computer is sending the file to the printer, > particularly > >>> > if it is a long file, it is clogging up the machine and > the copy > >>> > machine/printer > >>> > both. Has anyone got any suggestions? We are running > 256 memory on > >>> each > >>> > > >>> > of the computers. > >>> > > >>> > Would appreciate any help available. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Edwin H. Bideau III > >>> > Bideau Law Offices, LLC > >>> > Chanute, Kansas 66720 > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > To change your subscription: > >>> > http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdfbasics.html > >>> > >>>To change your subscription: > >>>http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdfbasics.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Edwin H. Bideau III > >>Bideau Law Offices, LLC > >>Attorneys at Law > >>18 North Forest > >>P. O. 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