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Ed, Could it be your network settings. We used to have 10mb half
duplex connection to the network and we printed about 4 ppm on
an Zerox 4230, we upgraded to a 100mb full duplex connection and
now we print at about 10 ppm.
I found it isn't always the machines, it could be the wire and
cards between the machines.
Good luck 

Ed

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OK, here is the info on our set up.

We are running on Windows 2000 workstations, peer to peer. We
are printing 
to an HP4050 and an HP2200d. The workstations are fairly new
Dells with 256 
memory, running at 2.4. We also print to a Konica 7031 copy
machine that is 
supposed to output at 30PPM but it seems to be even slower with
it. The 
Konica has the max printer memory installed.  These are all PCL
and we are 
printing from Adobe Acrobat 5.

What else do I need to tell you? Let me know and I will get it.
I sincerely 
appreciate the help.

Ed Bideau III



  At 10:25 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, you wrote:

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>It is also possible that the printer driver and/or format is
creating part 
>of the problem.  You could be having data transfer problems to
the 
>devices.  It may be a processing issue on the workstation
where you're 
>printing.  None of these would be PDF specific, but since
you're dealing 
>with files which are outputting considerably more data any
bottlenecks 
>will become much more pronounced.
>
>If you pause the printer and allow the buffer to fill up do
things print 
>any faster when the jobs are released?  Are these Postscript
devices, PCL, 
>etc.?  Vector mode PS, which is what you would normally get
with Word 
>docs, etc., is much faster than raster mode PS.  For raster
mode 
>operations some other format is normally faster.  That is also
true in 
>vector mode in most cases, but the trade off isn't as
noticeable.  If you 
>can give us printer model and driver specifics along with
platform and OS 
>information may be  helpful as well.  While these types of
things are less 
>common on normal letter and legal size docs we run into them
quite 
>frequently on large format output.  They may not be the
primary culprit, 
>but it never hurts to eliminate the possible causes.
>
>At 08:26 PM 6/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>
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>>We are using 300 dpi and it still prints out very slow. I
dont see how 
>>anyone ever gets data out of scanned files with printing at
this 
>>extremely slow speed.  Its the coming thing I guess but is a
hell of a 
>>lot slower than flipping through a paper file.
>>
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>>>         Edwin,
>>>
>>>         Scanned pages will take longer than word files that
just contain
>>>text, the reason behind this is the amount of information
that a scan
>>>contains versus the amount of info that a typeface (font)
contains. Scans
>>>are made of pixels the more pixels or ppi, dpi, then the
larger the file and
>>>therefore the longer the file will take to 'RIP' and
subsequently print.
>>>There are a few ways of increasing the time to print. Scan
your pages at a
>>>lower resolution try starting from 400dpi, scan in bitmap
(1bit) not
>>>grayscale (8bit), if you are using distiller to create the
pdfs lower the
>>>downsampling resolution, by trial and error you will find
the trade off
>>>between the speed and the quality you require. Additionally
there is OCR
>>>software (other list members will be able to suggest some
brands)  available
>>>that will convert your scans to fonts this will then achieve
a speed more
>>>likened to the word file processing times you are trying to
achieve.
>>>
>>>         Good Luck
>>>
>>>         Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Edwin H. Bideau III [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:29 PM
>>> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> > Subject:      [PDF-Basics] Print Out Problems with PDF
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>>> > I am having a devil of a time printing out PDF files. We
have started
>>> > scanning files for legal cases which is working fine but
printing out 
>>> is a
>>> >
>>> > real trouble.
>>> >
>>> > We are running HP printers that are 21 PPM fast printers
and really kick
>>> > out regular word processing files promptly. However, when
we try to print
>>> > out a PDF file, particularly one that has been Bates
numbered, it 
>>> slows to
>>> >
>>> > a crawl taking 30 secs or more to send each page over to
the printer.
>>> >
>>> > It is even worse with a networked Konica copy
machine/scanner that is
>>> > supposed to print at 30 PPM.  This machine has all
available print memory
>>> > you can buy but it seems like it is receiving the PDF
file one page at a
>>> > time, thinking about it, printing it, shutting down,
waking up, getting
>>> > the
>>> > next page and printing. It is printing maybe 8 PPM max.
>>> >
>>> > When the computer is sending the file to the printer,
particularly if it
>>> > is
>>> > a long file, it is clogging up the machine and the copy
machine/printer
>>> > both.  Has anyone got any suggestions?   We are running
256 memory on 
>>> each
>>> >
>>> > of the computers.
>>> >
>>> > Would appreciate any help available.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Edwin H. Bideau III
>>> > Bideau Law Offices, LLC
>>> > Chanute, Kansas 66720
>>> >
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