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Ed,
        What is your network topology - bus, star, ring? Is your hub a
switched hub? How many nodes are on your network? what speed is your
network? what spec of cable is used? What network protocols do you have
running?

        Martin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Hawley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:45 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [PDF-Basics] Print Out Problems with PDF
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> Ed, Could it be your network settings. We used to have 10mb half
> duplex connection to the network and we printed about 4 ppm on
> an Zerox 4230, we upgraded to a 100mb full duplex connection and
> now we print at about 10 ppm.
> I found it isn't always the machines, it could be the wire and
> cards between the machines.
> Good luck 
> 
> Ed
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/08/03 07:24PM >>>
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> OK, here is the info on our set up.
> 
> We are running on Windows 2000 workstations, peer to peer. We
> are printing 
> to an HP4050 and an HP2200d. The workstations are fairly new
> Dells with 256 
> memory, running at 2.4. We also print to a Konica 7031 copy
> machine that is 
> supposed to output at 30PPM but it seems to be even slower with
> it. The 
> Konica has the max printer memory installed.  These are all PCL
> and we are 
> printing from Adobe Acrobat 5.
> 
> What else do I need to tell you? Let me know and I will get it.
> I sincerely 
> appreciate the help.
> 
> Ed Bideau III
> 
> 
> 
>   At 10:25 PM 6/5/2003 -0400, you wrote:
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> >It is also possible that the printer driver and/or format is
> creating part 
> >of the problem.  You could be having data transfer problems to
> the 
> >devices.  It may be a processing issue on the workstation
> where you're 
> >printing.  None of these would be PDF specific, but since
> you're dealing 
> >with files which are outputting considerably more data any
> bottlenecks 
> >will become much more pronounced.
> >
> >If you pause the printer and allow the buffer to fill up do
> things print 
> >any faster when the jobs are released?  Are these Postscript
> devices, PCL, 
> >etc.?  Vector mode PS, which is what you would normally get
> with Word 
> >docs, etc., is much faster than raster mode PS.  For raster
> mode 
> >operations some other format is normally faster.  That is also
> true in 
> >vector mode in most cases, but the trade off isn't as
> noticeable.  If you 
> >can give us printer model and driver specifics along with
> platform and OS 
> >information may be  helpful as well.  While these types of
> things are less 
> >common on normal letter and legal size docs we run into them
> quite 
> >frequently on large format output.  They may not be the
> primary culprit, 
> >but it never hurts to eliminate the possible causes.
> >
> >At 08:26 PM 6/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >
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> >>We are using 300 dpi and it still prints out very slow. I
> dont see how 
> >>anyone ever gets data out of scanned files with printing at
> this 
> >>extremely slow speed.  Its the coming thing I guess but is a
> hell of a 
> >>lot slower than flipping through a paper file.
> >>
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> >>>         Edwin,
> >>>
> >>>         Scanned pages will take longer than word files that
> just contain
> >>>text, the reason behind this is the amount of information
> that a scan
> >>>contains versus the amount of info that a typeface (font)
> contains. Scans
> >>>are made of pixels the more pixels or ppi, dpi, then the
> larger the file and
> >>>therefore the longer the file will take to 'RIP' and
> subsequently print.
> >>>There are a few ways of increasing the time to print. Scan
> your pages at a
> >>>lower resolution try starting from 400dpi, scan in bitmap
> (1bit) not
> >>>grayscale (8bit), if you are using distiller to create the
> pdfs lower the
> >>>downsampling resolution, by trial and error you will find
> the trade off
> >>>between the speed and the quality you require. Additionally
> there is OCR
> >>>software (other list members will be able to suggest some
> brands)  available
> >>>that will convert your scans to fonts this will then achieve
> a speed more
> >>>likened to the word file processing times you are trying to
> achieve.
> >>>
> >>>         Good Luck
> >>>
> >>>         Martin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Edwin H. Bideau III [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:29 PM
> >>> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>> > Subject:      [PDF-Basics] Print Out Problems with PDF
> >>> >
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> >>> > I am having a devil of a time printing out PDF files. We
> have started
> >>> > scanning files for legal cases which is working fine but
> printing out 
> >>> is a
> >>> >
> >>> > real trouble.
> >>> >
> >>> > We are running HP printers that are 21 PPM fast printers
> and really kick
> >>> > out regular word processing files promptly. However, when
> we try to print
> >>> > out a PDF file, particularly one that has been Bates
> numbered, it 
> >>> slows to
> >>> >
> >>> > a crawl taking 30 secs or more to send each page over to
> the printer.
> >>> >
> >>> > It is even worse with a networked Konica copy
> machine/scanner that is
> >>> > supposed to print at 30 PPM.  This machine has all
> available print memory
> >>> > you can buy but it seems like it is receiving the PDF
> file one page at a
> >>> > time, thinking about it, printing it, shutting down,
> waking up, getting
> >>> > the
> >>> > next page and printing. It is printing maybe 8 PPM max.
> >>> >
> >>> > When the computer is sending the file to the printer,
> particularly if it
> >>> > is
> >>> > a long file, it is clogging up the machine and the copy
> machine/printer
> >>> > both.  Has anyone got any suggestions?   We are running
> 256 memory on 
> >>> each
> >>> >
> >>> > of the computers.
> >>> >
> >>> > Would appreciate any help available.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Edwin H. Bideau III
> >>> > Bideau Law Offices, LLC
> >>> > Chanute, Kansas 66720
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