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I'm glad to see some comments from those whose livelihoods depend on getting
the work out.

It sounds like my old adage of "PostScript-it and Distill-it" still is the
tried and true method of making PDFs.

That said, if one exports a PDF from Indesign CS, and uses the "Press"
settings, the file will be flattened and in 1.3 format. 

The moral to the story is what I said earlier...work with the printer to
ensure a good workflow, and the printer needs to work with the customer to
make sure they know how to best prepare the PDF. There are many ways to get
a job done, but the only right way is the one that works flawlessly.

Rich

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I am with you 100% we have Prinergy from Creo which runs on an Adobe Extreme
Rip, which by the way is a Level 3 Adobe Branded Postscript Rip.
We retired our level 2 rip harlequin only a couple of years ago.  We ask
that our customer's write out fat postscript, and distill everything at a
1.3 compatibility level regardless whether they have Acrobat 4.0, 5.0 or
6.0.  From my understanding Adobe created transparency more for the web than
anything else.  These pdf files straight out of Indesign, Illustrator, and
photoshop are great for the web, but I wouldn't recommend printing them.
These files seem to be unpredictable, and that is why we ask our customer's
to use distiller.  I too would like to know of a Rip that supports
transparency in a predictable manner.

Clifford Scott
Offset Prepress Team Leader
Quebecor World @ Dallas, Texas
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    As a printer who has the latest most up to date RIP,( AGFA Apogee series
3,soon moving to Apogee X) Pdf's prepared by exporting from any application
do not always print correctly, (if at all). That's not saying that all files
made in this manner behave this way.They are typically more problematic Than
the same files prepared by writing separate postscript, and them distilling.
I don't think Indesign CS is  the problem,  approximately 25% of our clients
are using it to produce their magazines with no problems whatsoever.( same
with Quark 6).
I have also talked to several other printers using different workflow
software and rips, and the problems are the same. If anyone can name a more
up to date RIP, that supports pdf 1.5 please tell me. Untill then ,We will
always accept jobs that are created with indesign CS or Quark6, and inform
our customers about the problems that could occur...and try not to let FUD
ruin our day.

cheers

Jason Paul
Prepress Technical Support
Transcontinental LGM Graphics




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