----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Paris" Subject: RE: Ripped on eBay
This is what he has to say about the camera body. "He Had It Serviced Back In 1988 For The Mirror Not Dropping Down. I Guess That Is Still The Problem." He definitely said the camera has a problem, but he didn't describe the problem(s) completely or properly. At best, his description is a weasel worded attempt to minimize a serious flaw in the product. At worst, he has outright lied about the condition. A punched out shutter is a serious enough flaw that it should be mentioned in the description. Where does he specifically say the camera isn't functioning? William Robb > So, what's up? You got egg on yer face, too? It wasn't misleading at > all. You just proved that people see only what they want to see. Go > over the whole description carefully. It was described as not working, > and not only did it say that the sale was final, it also said that the > camera was being sold "as is". Only the leather case was still > functional. If the lens is still good, that could be worth $35-50. The > "Overall Great Condition" clearly never applied to the camera. But feel > free to imagine anything you want to imagine. > > If Colin leaves him negative feedback, I'm sure he will get some in > return, too. Something about not being able to read. > > Len > --- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:54 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Ripped on eBay > > > > > > Hi, Len, > > > > Well, I must confess, when I read the auction last night, I > > didn't notice the "all sales final" part. But, I still think > > it's a very misleading > > description: > > > > "Overall in Great Condition" > > > > Then he mentions a sticky mirror that was supposedly fixed in > > 1988, and says "I guess that is still the problem". > > > > I don't think he can say "all sales final", then mention some > > problems, say "Overall in Great Condition", and ~not~ mention > > the biggest, most obvious, and most expensive problem. > > Collin, even if he knew that "all sales are final", bid on > > the strength of the description, which was misleading. > > > > Such an omission would (if I remember contract law) possibly > > amount to a "fundamental breach", vitiating the whole > > contract, including the term "all sales final". If I were > > Collin, that's the tack I'd take anyway. > > > > It was a misleading auction, and he shouldn't get away with > > it. Unfortunately, the cost of the remedy (if the guy wants > > to be a jerk), may be worth more than the cost of the camera... > > > > regards, > > frank > > > > Len Paris wrote: > > > > > Well he clearly stated that the camera has problems and > > that the sale > > > is final. The leather case is the only thing he claims is > > functional. > > > You have to read closer next time and don't let greed overcome good > > > sense. I don't think you'll get your money back. If it > > seems to good > > > to be true... > > > > > > Len > > > --- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:02 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Ripped on eBay > > > > > > > > > > > > Hasn't happened for a couple of years. > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?> > ViewItem&category=15240&item=1950 > > > 95 > > > 4179&rd=1 > > > > > > > > All looked good. Feedback, description, some detail provided. > > > > Unfortunately the shutter had a finger put through it! And when I > > > > can least afford it! > > > > > > > > Collin > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. > > The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > > > > >

