I kind of agree with Len, as this "Tupperware seller" might know very little about cameras. I just hope you'll convince him that the shutter curtain problem should have been noted, and that the mirror problem he mentionned normally calls for an easy repair while replacement of shutter curtains is very expensive.

To get a partial refund could be a solution as you could put this money on a CLA + curtains that should not cost more than 120$ or I'm wrong? You would have a good looking MX + lens, perfectly working for many years, for around 200$. Not that bad.

I hope you get a refund though.

Andre

Well, he said that his dad had sent it in for repair because the mirror
wouldn't come down and he said that it still had that problem. He just
didn't say how it got that way.  If you want me to give a word-by-word
explanation, I'll be happy to download the text of the description and
parse it for you and everyone else.

Len
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 -----Original Message-----
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Ripped on eBay



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Len Paris"
 Subject: RE: Ripped on eBay

 Len, I read, and reread the description, and nowhere did I
 read that the camera was fatally damaged. At the same time, I
 was uncomfortable enough with the description that I would
 have passed this one by. The description is definitely
 designed to decieve. You seem to agree with this.

 Whether it's worthwhile to try to get his money back is hard
 to say. Depends on local laws. Up here, you can't say "all
 sales final" to rip someone off. We have a cooling off period
 built into our consumer laws that would protect a buyer in
 this instance.

 William Robb


 > I'm not defending the seller.  I'm just saying potential
 buyers have
 > to read the descriptions a lot more closely.  I,
 personally, think the
 > seller crafted that description very carefully, depending
 on greed and
 > haste to provide a sucker for him.  In a rush to get it for the low
 > BIN price, he read way too quickly.  Had I done so myself, I would
 > chalk up the hundred buck loss to experience.  I may have jumped on
 > the BIN immediately, too, but surely would have read more closely
 > before actually sending the money.  I have backed out of a sale on
 > eBay before because I didn't trust the seller.  I have my
 money and he
 > has his lens. A seller gets to change his mind about
 selling, so why
 > shouldn't a buyer get to change his mind about buying?
 >
 > Len
 > ---
 >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:33 AM
 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > > Subject: Re: Ripped on eBay
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: "Len Paris"
 > > Subject: RE: Ripped on eBay
 > >
 > > This is what he has to say about the camera body.
 > >
 > >  "He Had It Serviced Back In 1988 For The Mirror Not
 Dropping Down.
 > > I Guess That Is Still The Problem."
 > >
 > > He definitely said the camera has a problem, but he
 didn't describe
 > > the
 > > problem(s) completely or properly.
 > > At best, his description is a weasel worded attempt to minimize a
 > > serious flaw in the product. At worst, he has outright lied about
 > > the condition. A punched out shutter is a serious enough
 flaw that
 > > it should be mentioned in the description. Where does he
 > > specifically say the camera isn't functioning?
 > >
 > > William Robb
 >
 >
 >
 >




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