Pressing halfway down on the Winder release, with the Camera and Winder off, and NO batteries in the winder still turns the winder on for as long as the release is held down.
Larry On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:34:31 -0400 Peter Alling wrote> > That's not how the manual says it should work, or for that matter the way > either of my winders works on any of my MX's. Camera or Winder off or on > press halfway down on the Winder release and the meter turns on. > > > At 08:30 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: > >Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: > >a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. > >b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. > >c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. > >d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. > > > >Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. > > > >Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. > > > >-Lon > > > >Michel Carr�re-G�e wrote: > >>Jose R. Rodriguez a �crit: > >> > >>>Michel, > >>> > >>>This is how two different MX Winders have operated with my MX camera. > >>>So, I suspect it is normal... > >>Normal ? > >>It's a major risk to drain battery ! > >>The Winder ME II don't do this. > >>Michel > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:47:15 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hydrazine will kill you in incredibly small amounts. > > At 09:15 AM 10/3/03 -0600, you wrote: > >This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really > >enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at > >NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on is the NASA ER-2 > >(essentially a U2 "R" model with less sophisticated electronics). The > >ground crews that look after these planes at Dryden Flight Research Center > >(Edwards AFB in CA) were, a few years ago but no longer, Lockheed Martin > >contractors. A number of the ground crew members had previously served on > >SR-71 ground crews. It is absolutely true that the SR-71 leaked like a > >sieve until it was airborne. It would refuel in air immediately after > >takeoff, which is common for a number of modern aircraft as well. One of > >the ground crew told me that he had seen pictures taken by the pilots in > >flight of the nose section glowing red when the plane was at full speed. > > > >The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on > >the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every time > >you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds in the > >event of a hydrazine leak is one of the things they caution you > >about. It's a nasty agent. I wouldn't be surprised if it is hydrazine > >used on the SR-71 as well. > > > >Peter > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:38:21 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > It's always fun to answer Yes, to the question "Are you male of female". > > At 09:22 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: > >In the 2000 US Census, "Sex" is defined as "Based on self-reporting of > >gender." I guess that gave people some flexibility in their answer? :-) > > > >--jc > > > >On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 08:26 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: > > > >>...Evidently sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the > >>psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the > >>sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. > >>At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word > >>"gender" on a survey.... > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 00:40:11 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Professions and the PUG > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Please Ann, this is a family list. (Not that I didn't consider it). > > At 09:35 AM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: > > >Was kinda surprised there were no shots of > >world's oldest... > >Nobody live in Vegas or Amsterdam?? :) > > > >annsan - feeling silly this morning > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 00:59:59 -0400 > From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: twowhoohoos > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Congratulations Mark, Both are excellent shots. I may regret asking this but > was river shot on 35mm, MF or digital? (I'm guessing MF) > > Butch > > Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. > > Hermann Hesse (Demian) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:00:53 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Winder MX, problem ? > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > AFIK the behavior you describe is correct. Lon is wrong. > > At 04:29 PM 10/3/03 +0200, you wrote: > >Lon Williamson a �crit: > > > >>Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: > >>a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. > >>b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. > >>c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. > >>d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. > >>Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. > >>Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. > >So work my Winder ME-II with the SuperA (Super Programm). > >But the MX metering when winder release is pressed in all a,b,c,d > >setings!!, and the same for an other French Pentaxiste. > >Theres is various relaese off Winder MX ?? > > > > > >Michel > > > > > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 22:56:48 -0600 > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: *ist D and the 1 gigabyte card > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Francis" > Subject: Re: *ist D and the 1 gigabyte card > > > > > > > The ist D supports a 1 gb card, saying it will store 70 RAW files, 56 > full > > > resolution tiffs. It will do smaller than full resolution tiffs also, 87 > > > medium resolution (2400x1600) or 512 small (1536x1024). > > > > Something seems wrong with those figures. Only 56 full-resolution (6MP) > TIFFs, > > and yet it has room for 512 small (1.5MP) TIFFs? Should that perhaps be > 212? > > Weird typo. That would be, in fact, 209, according to the camera. > > William Robb > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:29:12 +0200 > From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Michel_Carr=E8re-G=E9e?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Winder MX, problem ? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Lon Williamson a �crit: > > > Here's how the MX winder works with my MXen: > > a) Winder off, camera off: no metering when winder release is pressed. > > b) Winder off, camera on: no metering when winder release is pressed. > > c) Winder on, camera off: metering when winder release pressed. > > d) Winder on, camera on: metering when winder release is pressed. > > > > Ideally, only d) would activate the meter. > > > > Moral to this story: turn winder and camera off when storing. > So work my Winder ME-II with the SuperA (Super Programm). > But the MX metering when winder release is pressed in all a,b,c,d > setings!!, and the same for an other French Pentaxiste. > Theres is various relaese off Winder MX ?? > > > Michel > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:13:54 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! > And MORE !!! :-) > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Leica sells this model under their name as well, I bet it costs more... > > At 02:20 PM 10/3/03 -0700, you wrote: > >Plus, a Leica lens. > > > >Jim A. > > > > > From: Thomas Haller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 12:54:59 -0700 > > > To: "Pentax Discuss (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: OT:Panasonic DMC-FZ1 Aperture ring! Shutter speed dial!! And > > MORE !!! > > > :-) > > > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 16:38:11 -0400 > > > > > > Hey folks, > > > > > > Here's a nice looking digi-cam! Manual zoom ring on lens. Manual focus ring > > > on lens! Aperture ring on lens!! Shutter speed dial on top!!! Oh my > > GOD, who > > > would have thought of such innovations on a modern digital camera huh? > > > Obviously not Pen....aw never mind. > > > > > > site address: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html > > > > > > Maybe I'll wait for a bit before I purchase my next camera, eh? This one > > > looks sweet! > > > > > > (By the way, my brother's 10D is awesome! This digital stuff is fun!) > > > > > > - THaller > > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:10:51 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Super Program winding tightly > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > My first MX began doing this after about 20 years, a CLA cleared the problem > right up. > > At 04:51 PM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: > >The last few times I've used my Super Program, it seemed that it wound > >the film awfully tight, making it difficult to advance the film. It > >didn't do this when I first got the camera. Is there anything I can do > >to prevent this or do I need to take it for a CLA? > > > >Thanks, > >Amita > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:12:38 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Sex vs Gender > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Or subtracted as the case may be. > > At 04:14 PM 10/3/03 -0500, you wrote: > >I have a good friend who lays claim to having coined the usage of 'gender' > >rather than sex in this type of terminology. She is a feminist psychologist > >(field being the psychology of women) and needed a term for some of her > >papers and texts. This gives us something to argue over. Half a century ago, > >we were both taught that sex refers to the male vs female of a species and > >that gender is a gramatical term. After a few drinks, she will often agree > >with me, but still be proud of having added something to English usage. > > > >Larry > > > > > > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:26:22 -0400 > > > From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > > > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Content-Disposition: inline > > > > > > I've been told by some of my social scientist friends that the correct > > > term is "sex", i.e., the answer to "are you amle or female?". Evidently > > > sex is a pure physical discitnction whereas gender refers to the > > > psychological, behavioral, or cutltural traits associated with the > > > sexes, so that then latter is a continuous and not a binary variable. > > > At least this was the answer I got when I suggested we use the word > > > "gender" on a survey. If memory serves, I made some sophomoric joke as > > > a reply. ;-) > > > > > > > > > Steven Desjardins > > > Department of Chemistry > > > Washington and Lee University > > > Lexington, VA 24450 > > > (540) 458-8873 > > > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/02/03 11:11PM >>> > > > You're taking all of the sophomoric fun out of this list. > > > > > > At 10:21 PM 9/30/03 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Its better to use the word "gender" if your trying to avoid the > > > juvenile > > > >responses to the "sex" question I have found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Simon King wrote: > > > >>I'd be interested in seeing what the breakdown of the PDML is by, > > > say; > > > >>Sex, age, country, annual income, special interests etc. > > > >>Might throw up some surprises or challenge some assumptions. > > > >>Cheers, > > > >>Simon > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>PS - if anyone makes a joke about the "sex" question it'll just > > > prove how > > > >>many schoolboys are on the list. > > > >> > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > >>From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 30 > > > >>September 2003 8:00 AM > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>Subject: PDML numbers: Re: I haven't got *Ist D > > > >> > > > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Desjardins" Subject: Re: I > > > > > > >>haven't got *Ist D > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>Wow. I would have thought it was smaller. Hard to believe that > > > many > > > >>>folks think all of this is intersting ;-) > > > >> > > > >>Thats out of how many billions of people on this ball of dirt? > > > >><smiley> > > > >>William Robb > > > >></smiley> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > > > -- George Jean Nathan > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 01:27:04 -0400 > From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: twowhoohoos > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I hate you. ;) > > At 09:48 PM 10/3/03 -0400, you wrote: > >I gotta say it was a good day - > > > >Looked at the mail and found the current edition of American Entomologist, > >sporting one of my monarch shots on the cover. This is my second cover > >shot with them this year, after I sent them several photos last winter. It > >was a bit of a surprise, but a nice one: > > > >http://www.markcassino.com/temp/ae.jpg > > > >This evening I went to the photography competition into which I had > >entered my first pano try. Both of my shots were juried into the show. The > >pano did not win an award, but my non-pano took first place. That was this > >shot: > > > >http://www.markcassino.com/temp/k_river.jpg > > > >People spent more time looking at the pano than the other shot - I think > >there is a gimmick effect going on there. Though another photographer > >from Saugatuck entered three panos (printed on the 4 inch Epson roll > >paper) that looked pretty good. > > > >I got a modest cash prize and spent some time hanging out with folks from > >all the local green groups who were sponsoring the exhibit. > > > >I gotta say it was a good day... > > > >(that song has been buzzing in my head the last few hours.) > > > >- MCC > > > > > >----- > >Mark Cassino > >Kalamazoo, MI > >----- > > > >Photography: > > > >http://www.markcassino.com > > > > > > I drink to make other people interesting. > -- George Jean Nathan > > -------------------------------- > End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 Issue #1125 > ********************************************** >
