Might not be the grain the causes the problem. It could be noise from the scanner
which is unnoticeable under most circumstances. When you scan a 35mm negative and
begin to manipulate it digitally you're no longer comparing film and digital you're
digital and digital. But this argument has been aired in this forum before.


At 09:12 PM 2/12/04, you wrote:
Hello Shel,

The technique used was unsharp mask.  The reason I mention this is
because, no matter the method, the lack of grain seems to be of
benefit for those particular processes.  As a rule of thumb, I don't
sharpen my film scans (of course, I don't really print them beyond
8X10 - and then usually have the lab print from the negatives anyway),
but scan them at the highest res of my scanner (2820).  Sharpening
only comes into play when shrinking an image.  I suspect that there
are better techniques for sharpening the digital images also.  From my
experience, it takes a higher res scan of 35mm film to get a pleasing
print than it does from a digital image (note: I did not say more
detailed - just pleasing).

Nonetheless, I bring this up as the discussion was revolving around how many
megapixels it takes to equal 35mm film.


-- Best regards, Bruce


Thursday, February 12, 2004, 10:07:39 AM, you wrote:


SB> Bruce,

SB> While I agree with you to some extent, I must ask what
SB> technique you use for sharpening scanned film images.  There
SB> are numerous sharpening techniques, and some provide better
SB> results than others when working with film.

SB> shel

SB> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>
>> One interesting thing I've noticed after thousands of scan of 35mm and
>> shooting *istD - the digital images seem to handle greater sharpening
>> than the film scans.  Also they seem to handle enlarging beyond actual
>> image size (resizing) better.  I suspect this is due to the grain in
>> film.  Sharpening the grain makes the image a bit noisy looking.
>>

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-- George Jean Nathan




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