The actual body, excluding the superstructure, is virtually identical, both in shape and size. The Super A/Program certainly has more on top (it's not a blonde, you see, at least the Euro version isn't).

I accept they are different cameras, but the bit you hold is pretty much the same (which is why the winder fits both). That's why I argued with the assertion that the Super A is less "sleek".

I also disagree about it shaking like a wet dog. Mine was certainly no worse than my PZ-1p, which is better than my SFXs and K1000 and Spottie. Can't remember if the ME Super shook, doggilly or otherwise, but it's a long time ago. I did buy the Super A straight after the theft of the MES, and it just seemed like a similar camera with better features. Probably Bill Robb's got more use than mind did, and started to rattle a bit.

John

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:14:57 CDT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John said, regarding the Super A and the ME Super:
They are sufficiently similar that they both take the ME Winder II.  If
they are different, there's barely a millimetre in it.  They DO have
different shutters, so they don't sound the same.

I must admit, I made the comment assuming that the Super A and the SuperProgram
are the same bodies, differing only in colour. I have owned both the ME Super
and the SuperProgram, with a brief overlap, but only handled the Super A in the
absence of both the others.
According to the published specs, the dimensions of the two bodies (ME Super
and SuperProgram) are as follows:
SuperProgram -- 131mm W x 86.5mm H x 47.5mm D
ME Super -- 131.5mm W x 83mm H x 49.5mm D
they're pretty close but not quite the same shape, which could account for the
earlier comment that the ME Super felt -- what was it, "sleeker"? Certainly it
explains them feeling different in the hands, especially with a weight
difference as well. Also it's apparent from the figures that they aren't the
same body.
The SuperProgram and the Program Plus, however (I think the outside-US names
would be SuperA and ProgramA) have exactly the same published dimensions. Those
could well be the same body with different features; perhaps they're the ones
you were thinking about?


ERN





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