Yes, and I for one, demand 100% + shipping both ways on anything that was not as described. On returns for other reasons (I never have) I will eat the shipping.

If you can not depend upon the description, you would be stupid to bid on 
anything.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
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J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Sorry you are very misinformed if you think that "almost all ebay
listings" have
no return priviledges in the case of gross errors in the listing. If
that were
true then there would be no ebay. The whole reason ebay works is the
sellers are obligated to deliver what they list, they cant just ship whatever
they
feel like shipping and leave the buyers with no recourse.
JCO


-----Original Message-----
From: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: K15/3.5 (was Re: ok, who got it?)



that's still better than no such privilege at all. whch seems to be the case with almost all ebay listings. and there are *very few* people who would agree to refund the whole payment (bid + s/h).

otoh, if an item is clearly misrepresented (mis-advertised), you can (in
a long and painful process) get most of your money back from ebay,
without seller's cooperation at all. i know, i did once, a few year ago.

but, imo, the price is (way) too high, no matter what. perhaps the buyer
just wanted the lens that much :)

best,
mishka


On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 01:05:26 -0500, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't know about the K versions but the 15mm SMCTs have all been selling for over a $1000 lately on ebay. One thing I do not like on this listing is the
seller expects you to pay shipping and insurance costs for the

privilige

of
returning his mis-adverstised items. That's absurd if the error is

gross

and on
the part of the seller. Wheres the incentive for him to list it
correctly if
the buyer pays the price for his mistakes?
JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: K15/3.5 (was Re: ok, who got it?)

AL version? What's that? I didn't think the K15/3.5 was all that rare to warrant so high a price as this one sold for. Is this a reasonable price for a K15/3.5? Wasn't there a SMC Tak 15/3.5 as well? I'd like to learn more about the various iterations of this lens. Anybody an expert on these puppies?

Shel


[Original Message]
From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dunno, but I wonder who got this one:

http://tinyurl.com/547s5

I wonder if someone determined this was the AL version? According to Boz/Dario, only 100 were made.







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