Yes, that is the problem when customer buys something because its cheap, not because 
what it does. Its also very damaging for the brand value. When people start to buy a 
product because its cheap but go elsewhere when it cost as much as the competition, 
then you know a company is in trouble. 

P�l



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: MZ-S and More ?


> I think the trouble may come from the fact that the Z1 initially had
> rather poor sales, so the price dropped dramatically.  People who bought
> into this have come to think of Pentax as being a way to get far more
> for your money than the other big 4 offer.  The MZ5N continued this by
> offering almost the same functionality as the MZ-3 at a price that
> belied its ability.
> 
> People now want the same underpricing on the MZ-S.  Pentax wants to come
> back to the 'market price' and charge similarly to the other
> manufacturers.  Whether they have a 'better' product or not is not the
> issue when these people are comparing prices.
> 
> Personally I would like MZ-5N with updated AF.  I would not normally
> dream of spending �1000 on a body, but got into the idea of buying a
> flagship which had absolutely everything I could ever want and would
> last forever.  Unfortunately the MZ-S is not quite this, so I am unsure
> whether I can warrant stretching my budget that much.  This is not to
> say the MZ-S is not value for money, just that I dont know if I can
> justify spending that much for it when I could get a 5N for a fifth of
> the price.  Sure the MZ-S is a lot better but it still has limitations,
> just like the 5N.  If I lived in America and could get it for �850 then
> I would probably jump at it, but I dont.
> 
> The difficulty is not that the MZ-S is expensive, but that some of the
> recent 35mm bodies were/are so cheap.  The lenses and medium format may
> have been competitive on price, but the 35mm bodies have been real
> bargains of late.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: P�l Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 June 2001 10:47
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ?
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand the reluctance/criticism of so many on this list
> with the 
> > price of the MZ-S.  Is there some rule that Pentax cameras cannot go
> beyond a 
> > certain price point, regardless of the value built into them?
> 
> 
> I've noticed this weird fact too. I've never considered my Pentax
> equipment as cheap; LX, 645n + the lenses. Its like Rebel owners
> starting complaining about the Price of an EOS-1v and L-lenses. 
> 
> 
> P�l
> 
> 
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