SHEL B. Wrote: "Who said anything about focusing?  See my subsequent
post."

The original poster did. Read the threads from beginning
To end before you throw in stupid posts that don't
Even apply to the subject. He claimed that it was
Faster to shoot with M42 lenses stopped down all the time.
I say it's a B.S. reason and explained why.
You replied with a RF camera as an example. Hehe.
Now that's really dumb.  Look before you leap!
jco

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Shel Belinkoff
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:25 AM
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Subject: RE: K1D aperture simulator, part Three (III)- NOT

Who said anything about focusing?  See my subsequent post.

BTW,  I'm not the only one who sometimes shoots in that manner.
Cartier-Bresson did, Gary Winogrand did, Robert Capa did, WES did at
times,
I know Elliott Erwitt did, Weegee did, as did many other great
photographers - not that I'm comparing myself to them.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell 

> It is NOT faster to focus stopped down, the wider DOF and dimmer image
> Makes it HARDER not easier to focus accurately. Why
> Do you think auto aperture cameras and lenses were developed
> Way back in the 50's? Because its easier and faster way
> To work. I know because I have been using those cameras
> For years and years too. Less DOF means easier focus. Period.
> I am not arguing how he works, I am arguing the REASON
> He gave. 


> -----Original Message-----
> Shel Belinkoff

g a fool of yourself.  What hubris to tell someone how
> they choose to photograph or use their gear is wrong.
>
> Let me tell you something ... I don't know how old you are or how long
> you've been photographing, but I'm willing to wager you're not as old
as
> I
> and that you've not been photographing as long either.  When I shot
with
> Spotties back in the late sixties, I'd often shoot with the lens
stopped
> down, and depending on the lens, light, and scene, I'd shoot @ 5.6 or
> 8.0. 
> I knew EXACTLY what I was doing.  Shooting that way could be fast and
> accurate.  With the better finders of today - brighter and more
> contrasty -
> it's even easier to shoot in that manner.
>
> Anyway,  YOU don't have to see it.  It's what Adam sees that matters.
>
> To call someone you don't know stupid and a liar here in a public
forum
> shows more about you and your character than you probably want us to
> know.  

>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: J. C. O'Connell 
>
> > See my last post, your reason for doing so is flawed 
> > And there are other reasons why its worse too.
> > jco
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Adam Maas
>
> > John, You Ignorant Slut,
> >
> > It's quicker and I can see what's in focus at all times. Simple as
> that.
> >
> > Just because you don't, doesn't mean I can't.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> > J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> > > When the thread title is stupid I am going to comment on it.
> > > Secondly why havent you told us WHY WHY WHY you shoot with
> > > M42 auto-aperture lenses and bodies stopped down all the time?
> > > I don't believe it, either your stupid for doing so or your
> > > A liar for saying so unless you have some good explanation
> > > For doing so which I simply cant imagine as I am a LONG TIME
> > > User of M42 bodies and lenses and that makes no sense whatsoever
> > > To me at this point. I'd love to hear your reason for doing so.
> > > Maybe there is something I am missing but I cant see it.



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