Yeah a tzero derivative.  If they could get this down to what an average 
person could afford.

Rob Studdert sent me a link on magnetic/electric/flywheel technology which 
was extremely interesting.  Essentially the mechanical energy of high speed 
flywheels is used to power the vehicle.  The only consumed pollutants are 
those used to spinup the flywheels, with zero tailpipe emissions.

Tom C.



>From: "rg2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:32:51 -0500
>
>Hey, did you guys hear about the car a guy made with laptop batteries?
>
>http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/tesla.html
>
>rg2
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 7:35 AM
>Subject: Re: Doomsday is coming upon us?
>
>
> > Godfrey,
> >
> > I've met your car in person and think it is pretty neat.
> > The only think that I can imagine is exotic about it is the batteries.
> > I was just inquiring if you knew how exotic or not they were.
> >
> > For the past 30 years, various incarnations of the electric car have
> > been discussed.  The issue has always been energy density & power to
> > weight ratios for the batteries.  Sometimes very exotic materials were
> > used to meet requirements, without much thought of pollution.
> >
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> > On 12/28/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Dec 28, 2006, at 6:18 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >>
> >> > Only difference over a regular car would be some electronics, 
>electric
> >> > motor, and batteries.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure what you mean by this. Yes, it does use a four cylinder
> >> internal combustion engine and a differential, suspension and brakes.
> >> As a difference, it has no transmission, no starter motor, two drive/
> >> generator motors, and a drive battery pack in addition to the
> >> standard 12V gel cell battery that your car uses.
> >>
> >> > What is the pollution associated with creating
> >> > and disposing of the batteries over the life of the car?
> >>
> >> I couldn't tell you what kind of pollution is associated with the
> >> battery manufacture specifically for the cars, although we all know
> >> it is a manufacturing process with similar kinds of pollution to the
> >> creation of most of your daily household use items like kitchen
> >> appliances, stereo, television, etc. It's not like a battery
> >> manufacturing process was created out of nothing specifically and
> >> only for these automobiles.  They're made through the same
> >> manufacturers/plants that make camera batteries, for instance, and
> >> batteries for other applications
> >>
> >> The battery is fully warranted for 8 years and 100,000 miles, and
> >> it's designed to be recyclable (as is most of the rest of the car as
> >> well). I doubt the vehicle's lifespan is just that, or that the
> >> battery will last only that long, but it's a heck of a lot better for
> >> the environment that everything was designed for recycling in the
> >> first place.
> >>
> >> Godfrey
> >>
> >>
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