I would expect that every nuclear power with the ability to project 
power that far has such concrete plans, simply as an exercise in 
precaution. I don't expect them to be used.

-Adam


Markus Maurer wrote:
> In lthe Monday New Zurich  newspaper I have read that a nation (which name I
> will not mention here for good reason) has concrete plans to attack 3 atom
> fabric locations in the Iran with nuclear bombs.
> 
> *Some* people can't wait for WW III it seems :-(
> Markus
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> P. J. Alling
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:34 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
> 
> 
> There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the
> province of governments.  A single person with a gun is unlikely to kill
> a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot
> anyway).  A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single
> nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people.  For that reason alone I
> believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and
> governments to be disarmed.
> 
> Tom C wrote:
>> Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill.  In fact guns have killed more
>> people than nuclear weapons... so far.
>>
>> In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea.  They have both
>> led to untold injury, death, and suffering.  Their purpose is largely, to
>> kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life.
>>
>> Am I anti-gun?  No.  Just making a point.  Sure this is simplistic, but
> the
>> truth often is.
>>
>> Tom C.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500
>>>
>>> Sorry, I must disagree.  An armed victim is more likely to defend
>>> herself than a disarmed victim.  To paraphrase a member of the English
>>> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB.
>>> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong.  To restrict
>>> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense.
>>> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the
>>> right.'  Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the
>>> Citizens right of self defense.  Do you?
>>>
>>>
>>> William Robb wrote:
>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain
>>>>>
>>> banned
>>>
>>>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult),
>>>>>
>>> violent
>>>
>>>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent crime
>>>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US).  I doubt that
>>>>>
>>> smuggling
>>>
>>>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of
>>>>> something else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Straw man argument, Peter.
>>>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more
>>>>
>>> seriously
>>>
>>>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at
>>>>
>>> range
>>>
>>>> where the victim has less chance of self defence.
>>>>
>>>> William Robb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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