In lthe Monday New Zurich newspaper I have read that a nation (which name I will not mention here for good reason) has concrete plans to attack 3 atom fabric locations in the Iran with nuclear bombs.
*Some* people can't wait for WW III it seems :-( Markus -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:34 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely to kill a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason alone I believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and governments to be disarmed. Tom C wrote: > Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have killed more > people than nuclear weapons... so far. > > In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They have both > led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is largely, to > kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. > > Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is simplistic, but the > truth often is. > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 >> >> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to defend >> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the English >> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB. >> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To restrict >> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. >> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the >> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the >> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? >> >> >> William Robb wrote: >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain >>>> >> banned >> >>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), >>>> >> violent >> >>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent crime >>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that >>>> >> smuggling >> >>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of >>>> something else. >>>> >>>> >>> Straw man argument, Peter. >>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more >>> >> seriously >> >>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at >>> >> range >> >>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. >>> >>> William Robb >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > > -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
