All true. However, barring series variation, you won't find a dog  
among the DA lenses, particularly not the 14.2.8 or DA 12-24. Here's  
another pic from the DA 12-24 that brought me some cash:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5429605&size=lg

On Feb 22, 2007, at 2:37 PM, John Whittingham wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:14:19 -0500, K.Takeshita wrote
>> On 2/22/07 9:02 AM, "John Whittingham", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Reviews don't really tell you enough, imo. How can you judge a lens
>>>> without using it?
>>>
>>> No, but they're a damn good starting point, nothing like a bit of
> scientific
>>> testing and it's never done me any harm in the past.
>>
>> Agree.
>> I for one cannot afford to test each lens by buying them first.  If
>> and when I discover the lens was a dog, it's too late.  Everybody
>> here knows how to read "lens test".  Also, PDML exists for those
>> seeking for info and we can obtain first hand info from those who
>> actually use it. So, I would certainly search for useful info on a
>> lens before buying it.  As John said, it is a good starting point.
>>
>> Ken
>
> Thanks Ken, I've bought a couple of dogs when I was younger, one was a
> Vivitar Series 1!!
>
> John
>
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