YEAH RIGHT - and I'll do that for you when the other 
million totally wrong things posted here that
had to be corrected by me repeatedly year after year and are never
acknowledged. Your out of your damn mind. NO, it may be legal
to own them here ( not sure on the importation rule/laws on them )
but if they were legal to sell here why are none of the major
brands avaiable or why are no units of ANY brands available at
any major U.S. chains? NO REPLY yet on that. I think that is got
to be a **legal** licensing agreement issue like I suggested in
the beginnning of the thread, not some market force issue or
a "gentlemen's agreement" among DVD player suppliers. Besides,
the other argument like why would they have developed region
coding in the first place if they didnt have the legal and logistical
means
to enforce it? These questions remain unanswered so far...
jco

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Tom C
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:36 PM
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systemDVD's


Your first statement simply stated they were illegal. Your second
statement 
modified that stance slightly with the clause "from everything I've
heard", 
but also reinforced your earlier contention by further expanding it with
"to 
buy, sell or own".

What we want from you is to have you say, "Well guys, I guess I was
wrong 
and you were not breaking the law or doing anything illegal by buying, 
owning, using, or hacking to make become, region-free DVD players.  My 
misunderstanding."


Tom C.


>From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL
>systemDVD's
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:29:02 -0400
>
>I didnt state it as a matter of fact and I specifically
>stated "from everything I have heard". What the hell
>else do you want from me? I say the reason you cant
>buy any name brand ones here and cant buy them in any
>major US stores is because of LEGAL ISSUES, not
>because there isnt any demand for them which others
>have argued. I also put forth the simple question that if
>it was fully legal to be made/sold here in USA without any coding or 
>cross-coded then why would the system have been developed in the first 
>place which no one has answered... jco
>
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>Tom C
>Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:16 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: OT - for those of you whohaveDVD equipthat can playPAL 
>systemDVD's
>
>
>This started John, with your following statement with reference to 
>region code free DVD players :
>
>J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>"Those are out there but they are illegal."
>jco
>
>You then wrote:
>
>"It is illegal to buy, sell or own non-region 1 DVD players
>in or to north america from everything I have ever heard.
>Ever wonder why you cant just go buy one at Circuit Shitty?" jco
>
>You have yet to back up these statements, which were presented as 
>factual, with anything other than more of your own words.
>
>By those statements, you implicitly called all of us that have bought 
>or
>
>owned non-region 1 DVD players in North America, law-breakers and 
>scoff-laws.  We take umbrage with that and are awaiting clarification 
>so
>
>that we can either continue using these devices with a clean conscience

>or can devote the wretched things to destruction.
>
>Tom C.
>
>
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