How about I flip a quarter a hundred times and it comes up heads once? That is 
all that is needed. You apparently do not understand random chance any better 
than Hoyle. 

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Tom C wrote:
> Go flip a quarter until it comes up heads 100 times in a row.  Then get 
> back to me on that. ;-)
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
>> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>> Astronomers do not seem to understand chance, do they. If the chance 
>> is a billion to one, what is the change of it happening in the next 
>> iteration?
>>
>> One in two, no matter what particular iteration it is in, it has as 
>> much chance of happening the next time as it does of not happening. In 
>> other words there is no necessity of it going through a billion 
>> iterations before it happens. And there is no assurance that it will 
>> happen even once in that particular billion iterations. Once again no 
>> intelligent design is necessary.
>>
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>>
>> Tom C wrote:
>> > graywolf wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Hard to accept that you are not somehow special, isn't it. Personally
>> >> I believe random chance over >millions of years is the simplest 
>> answer.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Noted British Astonomer Fred Hoyle wrote (note I'm using this as an
>> > example of a noted and respected scientist, not that I agree with
>> > everything he says or that he's always correct... who is?)
>> >
>> > "if one proceeds directly and straightforwardly in this matter, without
>> > being deflected by a fear of incurring the wrath of scientific opinion,
>> > one arrives at the conclusion that biomaterials with their amazing
>> > measure or order must be the outcome of intelligent design."
>> >
>> > Hoyle calculated that the chance of obtaining the required set of
>> > enzymes for even the simplest living cell was one in 10 *40,000 power.
>> > Since the number of atoms in the known universe is infinitesimally tiny
>> > by comparison (10 *80 power), he argued that even a whole universe full
>> > of primordial soup wouldn’t have a chance. He claimed: The notion that
>> > not only the biopolymer but the operating program of a living cell 
>> could
>> > be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth
>> > is evidently nonsense of a high order.
>> >
>> > Hoyle compared the random emergence of even the simplest cell to the
>> > likelihood that "a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might 
>> assemble a
>> > Boeing 747 from the materials therein." Hoyle also compared the chance
>> > of obtaining even a single functioning protein by chance combination of
>> > amino acids to a solar system full of blind men solving Rubik's Cube
>> > simultaneously.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tom C.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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