In a perfect world - definitely.

I seem to remember a while back some mention of a change regarding 
selection, before peer voting.
I wonder if the people originally involved in selection still are?

We need to remember it's still their football.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting


> If they've raised the bar, they should go back and review all images in 
> the
> gallery with the new standard then... IMHO.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>>From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting
>>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:09:23 -0400
>>
>> >As near as I can tell from timing of acceptance/rejection, it appears
>>that
>> >there is a tally of votes >on a photo - when it reaches a threshold of
>> >either accept or reject, the photo is taken out of the >voting.
>>
>>I think you're reading more into the process than there is <IMHO>.
>>My experience is different. I've had images waiting for review for days &
>>I've had images reviewed in a matter of hours.  I've also voted on the 
>>same
>>image more than once.
>>
>> > I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to 
>> > see
>> > quality work of other >humans unless then know them.
>>
>>Not sure I understand that statement as it relates to this gallery.
>>
>>I do seem to get more submitted images rejected lately tho, but I thought
>>it
>>might be their attempt to limit the number posted. For me it seems they
>>have
>>definitely raised the bar no matter what the mechanism.
>>
>>Kenneth Waller
>>http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Subject: Pentax Gallery voting
>>
>>
>> > Probably just my own complaining, but I do continue to see a large
>> > slant towards outdoor (scenic) and street photography.  One real
>>downside
>> > to
>> > 'artists' voting before the judges even get a crack at it, is those
>> > biases can come out.  For example, after seeing about 400 dragonflies
>> > and butterflies I tend to be a little harsher in my judgements.  I
>> > also tend to be a little critical of photos of art - statues,
>> > paintings, etc.  As near as I can tell from timing of
>> > acceptance/rejection, it appears that there is a tally of votes on a
>> > photo - when it reaches a threshold of either accept or reject, the
>> > photo is taken out of the voting.  The rejects are simply rejected
>> > without judge intervention and the accepted are then put on hold (not
>> > actual status) waiting for the judges to decide.
>> >
>> > So technically excellent studio or wedding work will largely go
>> > unnoticed unless it involves a beautiful girl.
>> >
>> > Case in point - I had submitted the recent bridal portrait shot I show
>> > here, prior to showing on the list.  It was rejected within hours -
>> > which would indicate the judges had not even seen it (the judges take
>> > much longer to get to a photo than that - usually days).  I then
>> > showed it on list here and got a very strong positive response to it
>> > from people I would consider pretty critical.  So I decided to
>> > resubmit it to see what would happen.  This time it took a little
>> > longer to reject, but it did get rejected in a time frame that would
>> > lead me to believe the judges did not see it.
>> >
>> > I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to
>> > see quality work of other humans unless then know them.  Since they
>> > don't know them, it needs to be more like a NG shot of a beggar or a
>> > small child which all of us relate to.
>> >
>> > Anyway, just some thoughts.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruce


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