Good point Ann, but if that's the case they should state it.
I've had a portrait accepted & there was no issue with a release.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ann sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting


> Bruce -
> It also involves, I would thing - model's releases and the fear of the
> bride not wanting her photo
> out there on line.....
>
> I would never enter a portrait of anyone in a photo contest, myself,
> unless I had a full release from
> the subject and it wasn't a posed for shot someone asked me to take for
> them.
>
> I think they are being cautious..
>
> ann
>
>
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>>Probably just my own complaining, but I do continue to see a large
>>slant towards outdoor (scenic) and street photography.  One real downside 
>>to
>>'artists' voting before the judges even get a crack at it, is those
>>biases can come out.  For example, after seeing about 400 dragonflies
>>and butterflies I tend to be a little harsher in my judgements.  I
>>also tend to be a little critical of photos of art - statues,
>>paintings, etc.  As near as I can tell from timing of
>>acceptance/rejection, it appears that there is a tally of votes on a
>>photo - when it reaches a threshold of either accept or reject, the
>>photo is taken out of the voting.  The rejects are simply rejected
>>without judge intervention and the accepted are then put on hold (not
>>actual status) waiting for the judges to decide.
>>
>>So technically excellent studio or wedding work will largely go
>>unnoticed unless it involves a beautiful girl.
>>
>>Case in point - I had submitted the recent bridal portrait shot I show
>>here, prior to showing on the list.  It was rejected within hours -
>>which would indicate the judges had not even seen it (the judges take
>>much longer to get to a photo than that - usually days).  I then
>>showed it on list here and got a very strong positive response to it
>>from people I would consider pretty critical.  So I decided to
>>resubmit it to see what would happen.  This time it took a little
>>longer to reject, but it did get rejected in a time frame that would
>>lead me to believe the judges did not see it.
>>
>>I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to
>>see quality work of other humans unless then know them.  Since they
>>don't know them, it needs to be more like a NG shot of a beggar or a
>>small child which all of us relate to.
>>
>>Anyway, just some thoughts.


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