Well it's their backyard, but it's really OUR football(s) on the playing field. :-)
Tom C. >From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> >Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:51:11 -0400 > >In a perfect world - definitely. > >I seem to remember a while back some mention of a change regarding >selection, before peer voting. >I wonder if the people originally involved in selection still are? > >We need to remember it's still their football. > >Kenneth Waller >http://tinyurl.com/272u2f > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting > > > > If they've raised the bar, they should go back and review all images in > > the > > gallery with the new standard then... IMHO. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > >>From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net> > >>Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting > >>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:09:23 -0400 > >> > >> >As near as I can tell from timing of acceptance/rejection, it appears > >>that > >> >there is a tally of votes >on a photo - when it reaches a threshold of > >> >either accept or reject, the photo is taken out of the >voting. > >> > >>I think you're reading more into the process than there is <IMHO>. > >>My experience is different. I've had images waiting for review for days >& > >>I've had images reviewed in a matter of hours. I've also voted on the > >>same > >>image more than once. > >> > >> > I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to > >> > see > >> > quality work of other >humans unless then know them. > >> > >>Not sure I understand that statement as it relates to this gallery. > >> > >>I do seem to get more submitted images rejected lately tho, but I >thought > >>it > >>might be their attempt to limit the number posted. For me it seems they > >>have > >>definitely raised the bar no matter what the mechanism. > >> > >>Kenneth Waller > >>http://tinyurl.com/272u2f > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >>Subject: Pentax Gallery voting > >> > >> > >> > Probably just my own complaining, but I do continue to see a large > >> > slant towards outdoor (scenic) and street photography. One real > >>downside > >> > to > >> > 'artists' voting before the judges even get a crack at it, is those > >> > biases can come out. For example, after seeing about 400 dragonflies > >> > and butterflies I tend to be a little harsher in my judgements. I > >> > also tend to be a little critical of photos of art - statues, > >> > paintings, etc. As near as I can tell from timing of > >> > acceptance/rejection, it appears that there is a tally of votes on a > >> > photo - when it reaches a threshold of either accept or reject, the > >> > photo is taken out of the voting. The rejects are simply rejected > >> > without judge intervention and the accepted are then put on hold (not > >> > actual status) waiting for the judges to decide. > >> > > >> > So technically excellent studio or wedding work will largely go > >> > unnoticed unless it involves a beautiful girl. > >> > > >> > Case in point - I had submitted the recent bridal portrait shot I >show > >> > here, prior to showing on the list. It was rejected within hours - > >> > which would indicate the judges had not even seen it (the judges take > >> > much longer to get to a photo than that - usually days). I then > >> > showed it on list here and got a very strong positive response to it > >> > from people I would consider pretty critical. So I decided to > >> > resubmit it to see what would happen. This time it took a little > >> > longer to reject, but it did get rejected in a time frame that would > >> > lead me to believe the judges did not see it. > >> > > >> > I guess the real problem with a gallery like that is no one wants to > >> > see quality work of other humans unless then know them. Since they > >> > don't know them, it needs to be more like a NG shot of a beggar or a > >> > small child which all of us relate to. > >> > > >> > Anyway, just some thoughts. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Bruce > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
