I seem to remember somewhere seeing that the judges will have the final say 
on accepted images.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rebekah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting


> So the hypothetical question is - can enough "no" votes keep an image from
> being seen by the judges.?
>
> yes, and can enough "yes" votes override a judge's opinion?  Overall,
> what is the weight of each vote, both standing alone as well as in
> comparison to the votes of the judge(s)?
>
> rg2
>
>
> On 8/31/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So the hypothetical question is - can enough "no" votes keep an image 
>> from
>> being seen by the judges.?
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rebekah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting
>>
>>
>> > sounds logical to me, thanks :o)
>> >
>> > rg2
>> >
>> > On 8/31/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I believe the judges decide things with respect to those images that
>> >> survive our voting. I don't imagine it takes very many "yes" votes to
>> >> get it before the 'judges' for a final decision.(?)
>> >>
>> >> Jack
>> >> --- Rebekah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > How important are the votes anyways?  How many does a photograph 
>> >> > need
>> >> > to be accepted or declined, or do the judges decide things?
>> >> >
>> >> > rg2
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8/29/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > Noticing the titles seems to be an inadvertent thing for me. I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > > try to avoid them and was just expressing my involuntary reaction.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Jack
>> >> > > --- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > And I don't pay much attention to the titles.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Kenneth Waller
>> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery voting
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > Something that surprises me a bit is my dismay at many of the
>> >> > > > titles.
>> >> > > > > I don't find myself reviewing the equipment as much as I would
>> >> > have
>> >> > > > > expected.
>> >> > > > > It seems the oblique nature of many titles portend the lack of
>> >> > > > > experience or eye of the photographer and, in most cases, fail
>> >> > to
>> >> > > > add
>> >> > > > > the needed drama.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Jack
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Well, obviously I am part of the problem - I'm one of those
>> >> > voting
>> >> > > > on
>> >> > > > >> the images.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> When voting, the images are presented somewhat as they
>> >> > > > >> are submitted.  Quite a few times now, I have seen maybe 
>> >> > > > >> 10-30
>> >> > > > images
>> >> > > > >> all of a trip with some commentary much like you'd show 
>> >> > > > >> travel
>> >> > > > photos
>> >> > > > >> to your friends.  There might be one or two photos worth
>> >> > > > submitting
>> >> > > > >> to
>> >> > > > >> the gallery, but not all of them.  Most of those I have seen
>> >> > like
>> >> > > > >> that
>> >> > > > >> were all shot with the kit lens or sometimes the DA 50-200.
>> >> > As
>> >> > > > these
>> >> > > > >> are the low priced lenses in the line, it stands to reason
>> >> > that
>> >> > > > >> someone either new to the Pentax line or new to photography
>> >> > would
>> >> > > > >> purchase and use them.  Someone more seasoned would not 
>> >> > > > >> submit
>> >> > > > that
>> >> > > > >> many similar images - only the real standouts.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> I guess another way to put it would be that when you notice
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > lens
>> >> > > > >> used is quite expensive, you have a notion that perhaps the
>> >> > > > >> photographer is more serious about their work - this is not
>> >> > always
>> >> > > > >> the
>> >> > > > >> case, but more often than someone shooting the kit lens.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> That is the explanation - it doesn't mean at all that a great
>> >> > > > photo
>> >> > > > >> can't be produced with either of those lenses - and I have
>> >> > seen
>> >> > > > quite
>> >> > > > >> a few great shots done with those lenses.  But I have also
>> >> > seen a
>> >> > > > >> large percentage of shots done with those lenses submitted
>> >> > that
>> >> > > > >> didn't
>> >> > > > >> really cut the mustard.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> --
>> >> > > > >> Best regards,
>> >> > > > >> Bruce


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